Re: [mh] What’s better than Insteon?

Answering my own question: YES, using rules:

https://tasmota.github.io/docs/Rules/#two-way-light-switches-without-mqtt

Gaaah.  Now I'm going to have to invest in a bunch of new devices I can 
run Tasmota on!

Jeff

On 2020-12-12 5:45 p.m., Jeff Siddall wrote:
> Tasmota looks pretty cool.  Messing around with MQTT isn't high on my 
> priority list, but I notice you mentioned "I mostly use HTML". HTTP is 
> more interesting/universal to me, but after having a quick look 
> through Tasmota, it is still unclear if I can have it send something 
> when it gets a local input (ex: the switch changes state on a Sonoff 
> Mini).
>
> Two-way control is something that I would like to get, and am still 
> trying to find the perfect smart switch to give me this. Have you 
> found a way to do that?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 2020-12-12 6:17 a.m., Giles Godart-Brown wrote:
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> I've  gone though a umber of iterations with my Misterhouse based 
>> system, going  from x10 to LightwaveRF, then Wemo and now MQTT 
>> devices based on Sonoff (https://sonoff.tech/product) which I reflash 
>> with Tasmota (https://tasmota.github.io/docs/)
>>
>> There are HUGE benefits of doing this, e.g.
>>
>>   * They are very cheap
>>   * They work with the MH MQTT interface ( but I mostly use html
>>     because I'd already written lots of code for Wemo)
>>   * Every device has a web page so its easy to check the  actual
>>     status of any device, I have a script that does this every 5
>>     minutes ( I'm a belt and braces type of guy).
>>   * Tasmota implements the MQTT Last Will and Testament so you can
>>     detect within seconds if a device has gone offline
>>   * Tasmota is awesome - there are loads of device drivers, for
>>     example I have it running on a Wemos D1 mini
>>     (https://shop.rasp.io/products/wemos-d1-mini-esp8266) connected to
>>     8 1-wire temperature sensors, this feeds my MH central heating 
>> system
>>   * There are excellent management tools for  tasmota e.g. TDM
>>     (https://github.com/jziolkowski/tdm) which shows all the Tasmota
>>     devices on your network, allows you to access their consoles, web
>>     pages, lists version numbers, wifi signal strength, do over the
>>     air updates and much more.
>>
>> This isn't for the faint hearted;
>>
>>   * There is a bit of a learning curve
>>   * You have to reflash commercial devices (and sometimes this
>>     involves soldering), but the support community is great and they
>>     respond pretty quickly when Sonoff changes the firmware.
>>   * You have to have reasonable coverage of your Wifi, that said, a
>>     couple of my outdoor switches are running fine with only 30%
>>     signal strength, (i use the BT mesh whole home wifi
>>     routers/repeaters inside)
>>   * You  end up with a lot of devices on your WiFi network (over 50 in
>>     my case) but their traffic is very low compared to say streaming
>>     video.
>>   * You need to run an MQTT broker, however Mosquitto
>>     (https://mosquitto.org/) seems to be very lightweight (I have it
>>     running with Misterhouse on a Raspberry PI)
>>
>>
>> Giles
>>
>> On 12/12/2020 10:04, Tom MacLean wrote:
>>> I have an aging misterhouse and Insteon setup. I’m getting a bit 
>>> annoyed with replacing Insteon modules (particularly the ones that 
>>> were buried in my kitchen ceiling!) and also they are a bit quirky. 
>>> (If I turn off a bunch of lights too quickly, a whole bunch of other 
>>> lights turn on.)
>>>
>>> I am planning a basement reno that will lead to a bunch more 
>>> modules.  Is there another automation technology I should be 
>>> considering?
>>>
>>> I would like to avoid cloud-based solutions.
>>> I am a little leery of bogging down my wifi with old-standard 
>>> equipment.
>>> Mister house automation is mandatory.
>>> UL/CSA is mandatory
>>> More cosmetic options than Insteon would be nice.
>>>
>>> I’d appreciate your advice!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> More variety in swit
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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