Re: [mh] What’s better than Insteon?

Giles, if you happen to live in North America I will point out that the Sonoff don’t have a safety listing (no mark such as UL, CSA, TUV) which is required by the electrical codes. 

In looking up Tasmota I have found at least one brand (Treatlife) that has safety listing from ETL on their switches , though not dimmers. I don’t understand how Amazon gets away with selling all this stuff without safety listings. 

Thanks for the lead on Tasmota.  

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> On Dec 12, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Giles Godart-Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Tom
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> I've  gone though a umber of iterations with my Misterhouse based system, going  from x10 to LightwaveRF, then Wemo and now MQTT devices based on Sonoff (https://sonoff.tech/product) which I reflash with Tasmota (https://tasmota.github.io/docs/)
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> There are HUGE benefits of doing this, e.g.
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> They are very cheap
> They work with the MH MQTT interface ( but I mostly use html because I'd already written lots of  code for Wemo)
> Every device has a web page so its easy to check the  actual status of any device, I have a script that does this every 5 minutes ( I'm a belt and braces type of guy).
> Tasmota implements the MQTT Last Will and Testament so you  can detect within seconds if a device has gone offline
> Tasmota is awesome - there are loads of device drivers, for example I have it running on a Wemos D1 mini (https://shop.rasp.io/products/wemos-d1-mini-esp8266) connected to 8 1-wire temperature sensors, this feeds my MH central heating system
> There are excellent management tools for  tasmota e.g. TDM (https://github.com/jziolkowski/tdm) which shows all the Tasmota devices on your network, allows you to access their consoles, web pages, lists version numbers, wifi signal strength, do over the air updates and much more.
> This isn't for the faint hearted;
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> There is a bit of a learning curve 
> You have to reflash commercial devices (and sometimes this involves soldering), but the support community is great and they respond pretty quickly when Sonoff changes the firmware. 
> You have to have reasonable coverage of your Wifi, that said, a couple of my outdoor switches are running fine with only 30% signal strength, (i use the BT mesh whole home wifi routers/repeaters inside)
> You  end up with a lot of devices on your WiFi network (over 50 in my case) but their traffic is very low compared to say streaming video.
> You need to run an MQTT broker, however Mosquitto (https://mosquitto.org/) seems to be very lightweight (I have it running with Misterhouse on a Raspberry PI)
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> 
> Giles
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>> On 12/12/2020 10:04, Tom MacLean wrote:
>> I have an aging misterhouse and Insteon setup. I’m getting a bit annoyed with replacing Insteon modules (particularly the ones that were buried in my kitchen ceiling!) and also they are a bit quirky. (If I turn off a bunch of lights too quickly, a whole bunch of other lights turn on.)
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>> I am planning a basement reno that will lead to a bunch more modules.  Is there another automation technology I should be considering?
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>> I would like to avoid cloud-based solutions. 
>> I am a little leery of bogging down my wifi with old-standard equipment. 
>> Mister house automation is mandatory. 
>> UL/CSA is mandatory 
>> More cosmetic options than Insteon would be nice. 
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>> I’d appreciate your advice!
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>> More variety in swit
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