Re: [mh] The Post Insteon World

Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Jun 2022 10:07:48 -0400
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Thanks to all for your ideas on how to move away from Insteon/X10 and
suggestions for a replacement environment.

I have found numerous articles and YouTubes regarding Tasmota. A few
articles (I didn't keep the references - I should have) seem to say that
some devices that used to be able to be reflashed with Tasmota are no
longer able to due to changes on the device's chip set. I'm looking for
your opinions.

As far as device replacements, I have found the Sonoff S31 (ASIN B08GKGS197)
so I bought one. Along with that purchase, I bought a Moyina FT232 (ASIN
B075N82CD) and Goupchn Mini Grabber Test Hooks (ASIN B08M5Z5YF) [to avoid
soldering].My plan is to reflash the S31 with Tasmota and start playing
with it.

The Sonoff S31 appears to be a direct replacement for the Insteon On/Off
Module 2635-222 and Insteon ApplianceLinc 2456S3.

I also have the following Insteon modules. What devices are suitable
substitutes?
- SwitchLinc 2477S Wall Switch
- SwitchLinc 2466SW Wall Switch
- SwitchLinc 2474DWH Wall Switch [this is being used where there is no
neutral wire available]
- LampLinc Dimmer 2457D2 [similar to On/Off Module 2635-222, but dims via a
triac]

Now for the Misterhouse part.  I have read (
https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki/Tasmota ) and have a question
about the MHT file.  The article gives two examples, TASMOTA_HTTP_SWITCH
and TASMOTA_HTTP_FAN. What other Tasmota device types are there and how are
they coded in the MHT file?

It appears that I can command devices from Misterhouse via either HTTP or
MQTT.
- What are the advantages of one over the other?
- Can the environment be mixed where some devices are commanded via HTTP
and some via MQTT?  Why would I want to do this?
- Can HTTPS be used rather than HTTP?
- Is there a secure implementation of MQTT?  Can it be used?
- The article mentions a MQTT broker for the Raspberry PI (mine is a 4)
called "Mosquitto". I may start with HTTP and move to MQTT based on your
suggestions.

The Sonoff S31 has power monitoring capabilities (as opposed to the S31
Lite). Can I get this information into Misterhouse so it can make decisions
based on power usage?

Your ideas and experiences are always valued.

Thanks,
Bruce





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On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 12:17 PM Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm looking for suggestions on how to move forward in a "post Insteon"
> world.
>
> My own environment is a Raspberry Pi connected to a PowerLinc 2413U
> running Misterhouse. The end devices are a mix of Insteon with X10
> controllers. I "translate" X10 signals to Insteon commands within MH.
>
> The PLM and Raspberry PI are less than a year old. I had plans to purchase
> a backup PLM, but it didn't happen. I see now it's no longer an option.
>
> I would like to migrate from Insteon (and maybe X10) to something that is
> more modern; keeping MH on the Pi as the main "server".  My MH programming
> has more than 20 years of effort.
>
> I have read that MH is able to utilize technologies other than X10 and
> Insteon.
>
> What direction are you folks leaning towards that is able to be controlled
> with MH and is still in business?
>
> Please include hardware requirements for each suggested protocol so I can
> begin working on a budget.  If your suggestion is also able to run Insteon
> devices, all the better. I don't expect that to be the case since the
> Insteon protocol was proprietary.
>
> The optimum situation would be for me to first purchase whatever
> controller is needed for the new protocol (the device that would eventually
> replace the Insteon PLM), get it talking to MH. I'd like to think that MH
> would be able to talk to both PLMs.  Then I'd start purchasing end devices
> that would replace my existing Insteon end devices.
>
> Your suggestions would be very welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>

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