Re: [mh] The Post Insteon World

Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]> Sun, 24 Jul 2022 22:26:11 -0400
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Also, I can't get the heartbeat to work so for now I'm running nohb.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 22:23 Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I found that without "sync" MH wouldn't send commands. Any ideas how to
> diagnose why I need "sync"?
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 22:13 H Plato <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The RRDs is probably my fault. I added in the ability to graph power
>> usage of the S31s through the web interface. I’ll make a note to make that
>> a config.ini parameter so it defaults off.
>>
>> the sync option does a direct call to the device, so if one is offline
>> there may be pauses. I use async, and haven’t had any issues, but haven’t
>> done extensive testing.
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Finally success!
>>
>> I had to comment out two "use" statements in "Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm":
>> "use RRD::Simple;" and "use RRDs;".
>>
>> In "items.mht", I had to add options "debug" and "sync" to the
>> "TASMOTA_HTTP_SWITCH" line.
>>
>> I added Rule1 and Rule2 per the comments in "Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm" to the
>> Sonoff S31.
>>
>> It now appears to be working. I had bought two so I'm going to start on
>> the second.  After that, I'll be looking for light switches. Someone
>> suggested Martin Jerry, so I'll be looking there next.
>>
>> At some point, I'm going to want to switch from HTTP access to MQTT
>> access.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 5:47 PM Bruce Schaeffer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That didn't seem to help. I know that MH modifies @INC so testing from
>>> the command line won't know about MH's modifications.  Here's what I got
>>> when I tried it from the command line.
>>>
>>> misterhouse@raspberrypi:/var/local/misterhouse/prod $ cd
>>> /usr/local/misterhouse/lib
>>> misterhouse@raspberrypi:/usr/local/misterhouse/lib $ ls -l
>>> Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 misterhouse misterhouse 25149 Jul  4 17:25
>>> Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm
>>> misterhouse@raspberrypi:/usr/local/misterhouse/lib $ ls -l
>>> Generic_Item.pm
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 misterhouse misterhouse 63266 Jul  4 17:25 Generic_Item.pm
>>> misterhouse@raspberrypi:/usr/local/misterhouse/lib $ perl
>>> Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm
>>> Can't locate Generic_Item.pm in @INC (you may need to install the
>>> Generic_Item module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl
>>> /usr/local/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl/5.28.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.28.1
>>> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl5/5.28 /usr/share/perl5
>>> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl/5.28 /usr/share/perl/5.28
>>> /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl-base) at
>>> /usr/share/perl/5.28/parent.pm line 16.
>>> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm line 98.
>>> misterhouse@raspberrypi:/usr/local/misterhouse/lib $
>>>
>>> Has anyone else run into these problems while implementing Tasmota?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:03 AM Dave Neudoerffer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try running 'perl Tasmota_HTTP_item.pm'. You are probably missing a
>>>> required perl package.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022, 10:43 AM Bruce Schaeffer <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I now have the "master" branch installed. It's still not recognizing
>>>>> the Tasmota device. I think I have identified the statement that isn't
>>>>> working, but don't know why.
>>>>>
>>>>> In "read_table_A.pl", is this section:
>>>>>    elsif ( $type eq "TASMOTA_HTTP_SWITCH" ) {
>>>>>         print_log "read_table_A.pl: Type is TASMOTA_HTTP_SWITCH\n";
>>>>>         print_log "Tasmota 00\n";
>>>>>         require Tasmota_HTTP_Item;
>>>>>         print_log "Tasmota 01\n";
>>>>>         my ( $output );
>>>>>         ( $address, $name, $output, $grouplist, @other ) = @item_info;
>>>>>         $other = join ',',  @other ;    # Quote data
>>>>>         $other =~ s/^[\'\"]//; #strip out quotes in case they are
>>>>> included
>>>>>         $other =~ s/[\'\"]$//;
>>>>>         $object = "Tasmota_HTTP::Switch('$address', '$output',
>>>>> '$other')";
>>>>>         print_log "read_table_A.pl Tasmota: object = |$object|\n";
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I added the two "print_log" statements. When I restart MH, it prints
>>>>> the "00" statement, but doesn't print the "01". I put two equivalent
>>>>> statements around the Insteon code and it prints both of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I can tell, it means that it's not able to either find or
>>>>> execute "Tasmota_HTTP_Item", but I don't know why.  I tried commenting out
>>>>> the "requires" line. When I did, I saw both the "00" and "01" lines and the
>>>>> code continued, but then it displayed "Evaluating user code" and sat
>>>>> forever (at least 5 minutes) before I gave up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about adding "print_log" statements directly into
>>>>> "Tasmota_HTTP_Item.pm", but I'm not familiar with Perl packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Powershell, it's possible to configure a setting where it shows
>>>>> each statement as it's executing it. Is there something the same that I can
>>>>> set to see what's going on in Perl?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, as always.
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 12:50 PM Bruce Schaeffer <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have successfully flashed a Sonoff S31 with Tasmota 12.0.2.  I am
>>>>>> able to control it locally via http.  Now I want to incorporate it into
>>>>>> misterhouse.  I don't think my current installation has the features for
>>>>>> http and mqtt access. I'm not sure how to report what my current version
>>>>>> is, although the file VERSION contains"5.0".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking through my notes, I believe I followed (
>>>>>> https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki/Contributing#user_access
>>>>>> ) to manually copy the "stable" branch when I first installed misterhouse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Since it has been a while, how do I update what I currently have?
>>>>>> - Should I update more frequently than "when I need a new feature"?
>>>>>> - If I update to the current "stable" branch as described, will my
>>>>>> installation have the necessary features to be able to use http and mqtt,
>>>>>> per (
>>>>>> https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki/Tasmota#controlling-tasmota-from-misterhouse-using-http
>>>>>> ) and (
>>>>>> https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki/Tasmota#controlling-tasmota-from-misterhouse-using-mqtt
>>>>>> )?
>>>>>> - I see references in the documentation to a branch named "master".
>>>>>> - Should I remain with "stable" or change to "master"? How do I do
>>>>>> that? Is there a reason NOT to move to "master"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:07 AM Bruce Schaeffer <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all for your ideas on how to move away from Insteon/X10
>>>>>>> and suggestions for a replacement environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found numerous articles and YouTubes regarding Tasmota. A few
>>>>>>> articles (I didn't keep the references - I should have) seem to say that
>>>>>>> some devices that used to be able to be reflashed with Tasmota are no
>>>>>>> longer able to due to changes on the device's chip set. I'm looking for
>>>>>>> your opinions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as device replacements, I have found the Sonoff S31 (ASIN
>>>>>>> B08GKGS197) so I bought one. Along with that purchase, I bought a
>>>>>>> Moyina FT232 (ASIN B075N82CD) and Goupchn Mini Grabber Test Hooks (ASIN B08M5Z5YF)
>>>>>>> [to avoid soldering].My plan is to reflash the S31 with Tasmota and
>>>>>>> start playing with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Sonoff S31 appears to be a direct replacement for the Insteon
>>>>>>> On/Off Module 2635-222 and Insteon ApplianceLinc 2456S3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also have the following Insteon modules. What devices are suitable
>>>>>>> substitutes?
>>>>>>> - SwitchLinc 2477S Wall Switch
>>>>>>> - SwitchLinc 2466SW Wall Switch
>>>>>>> - SwitchLinc 2474DWH Wall Switch [this is being used where there is
>>>>>>> no neutral wire available]
>>>>>>> - LampLinc Dimmer 2457D2 [similar to On/Off Module 2635-222, but
>>>>>>> dims via a triac]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now for the Misterhouse part.  I have read (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/hollie/misterhouse/wiki/Tasmota ) and have a
>>>>>>> question about the MHT file.  The article gives two examples,
>>>>>>> TASMOTA_HTTP_SWITCH and TASMOTA_HTTP_FAN. What other Tasmota device types
>>>>>>> are there and how are they coded in the MHT file?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears that I can command devices from Misterhouse via either
>>>>>>> HTTP or MQTT.
>>>>>>> - What are the advantages of one over the other?
>>>>>>> - Can the environment be mixed where some devices are commanded via
>>>>>>> HTTP and some via MQTT?  Why would I want to do this?
>>>>>>> - Can HTTPS be used rather than HTTP?
>>>>>>> - Is there a secure implementation of MQTT?  Can it be used?
>>>>>>> - The article mentions a MQTT broker for the Raspberry PI (mine is a
>>>>>>> 4) called "Mosquitto". I may start with HTTP and move to MQTT based on your
>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Sonoff S31 has power monitoring capabilities (as opposed to the
>>>>>>> S31 Lite). Can I get this information into Misterhouse so it can make
>>>>>>> decisions based on power usage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your ideas and experiences are always valued.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 12:17 PM Bruce Schaeffer <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking for suggestions on how to move forward in a "post
>>>>>>>> Insteon" world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My own environment is a Raspberry Pi connected to a PowerLinc 2413U
>>>>>>>> running Misterhouse. The end devices are a mix of Insteon with X10
>>>>>>>> controllers. I "translate" X10 signals to Insteon commands within MH.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The PLM and Raspberry PI are less than a year old. I had plans to
>>>>>>>> purchase a backup PLM, but it didn't happen. I see now it's no longer an
>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to migrate from Insteon (and maybe X10) to something
>>>>>>>> that is more modern; keeping MH on the Pi as the main "server".  My MH
>>>>>>>> programming has more than 20 years of effort.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have read that MH is able to utilize technologies other than X10
>>>>>>>> and Insteon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What direction are you folks leaning towards that is able to be
>>>>>>>> controlled with MH and is still in business?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please include hardware requirements for each suggested protocol so
>>>>>>>> I can begin working on a budget.  If your suggestion is also able to run
>>>>>>>> Insteon devices, all the better. I don't expect that to be the case since
>>>>>>>> the Insteon protocol was proprietary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The optimum situation would be for me to first purchase whatever
>>>>>>>> controller is needed for the new protocol (the device that would eventually
>>>>>>>> replace the Insteon PLM), get it talking to MH. I'd like to think that MH
>>>>>>>> would be able to talk to both PLMs.  Then I'd start purchasing end devices
>>>>>>>> that would replace my existing Insteon end devices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your suggestions would be very welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
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