Re: [mh] MH & HA - Integration? Migration?

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I have tried yaml, nodered and app daemon (python code) for automations in
HA. But I am old, and have worked on my perl code in MH for a lot of years.
Now all that code still works great even with the devices in HA.

My son ended up doing his HA automations using the websocket API from a
program he wrote in RUST (after also trying most of the HA automation
options). I am just fine doing them in perl, and MH seems like a reasonable
place to host them.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 11:05=E2=80=AFAM Dean Junk <[email protected]> wrote:

> I used MH for about 15 years and built a lot of code specific for my
> needs. My biggest recommendation is to skip putting automations in the ya=
ml
> files. Use node red, it=E2=80=99s by far the easiest way to migrate. I sp=
ent 2
> weeks trying to convert using yaml and finally gave up. I installed node
> red and spent 1 day getting to know it and then spent 1 day converting
> everything I had custom in MH. HA is great but lacks saving states when
> restarted, otherwise I find it much superior to MH. The number of devices
> it supports is amazing!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 25, 2024, at 9:35=E2=80=AFAM, Dave Neudoerffer <[email protected]=
om>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I have worked on this quite a bit over the past several months.  I have 3
> separate HA/MH installations.  I have been using MH for many years, but m=
y
> son convinced me to add HA into the mix, for exactly the reasons you
> state.
>
> As I did a lot of the work on MQTT for MH, I started with an MQTT
> solution.  However, HA does not publish discovery nor support commands on
> its entities via MQTT.  So I used the REST API to get a round trip  --
> commands and some discovery via the REST API, state change via MQTT.  Thi=
s
> was pretty clumsy still.  So I have more recently implemented a fairly
> simple HA_Item.pm module that uses the HA Websocket API -- the websocket
> API hooks right into the event bus in HA, so you get everything.  I was
> giving it some time to settle, and wasn't sure whether anyone else would =
be
> interested, but I am happy to share the module.  Or I could put together =
an
> MH push, but that would take me a day or two.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 9:46=E2=80=AFAM H Plato <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>   Is anyone using Home Assistant (HA)? I=E2=80=99ve recently picked up a=
 new new
>> devices, and it is impressive the amount of device support available in =
HA.
>> I=E2=80=99d rather spend my time setting up automations than developing =
device
>> modules. So I=E2=80=99m thinking about running them in parallel, as my M=
H instance
>> has lots of logic that I don=E2=80=99t know how to replicate in HA, as w=
ell as
>> speech for home events, watering moisture calculations, etc=E2=80=A6 HA =
would be a
>> contained VM that would hold the devices and maybe the user interface. I
>> mainly use the floorplan IA7 interface, and I haven=E2=80=99t seen that =
in HA yet.
>>
>>   Both MH and HA use MQTT, so that could be a communication option, or
>> using web calls. I also have some older tech that still works fine (weed=
er
>> and W800), which I=E2=80=99ll have to figure out. My hardware is also ol=
d, so I=E2=80=99m
>> seeing this as an opportunity to architect a bit more of a better soluti=
on,
>> by virtualizing everything.
>>
>>   Anyone gone down any of these paths?
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I have tried yaml, nodered and app daemon (python code) f=
or automations in HA. But I am old, and have worked on my perl code in MH f=
or a lot of years. Now all that code still works great even with the device=
s in HA.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My son en=
ded up doing his HA automations using the websocket API from a program he w=
rote in RUST (after also trying most of the HA automation options). I am ju=
st fine doing them in perl, and MH seems like a reasonable place to host th=
em.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 11:05=E2=80=AFAM Dean Junk &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
I used MH for about 15 years and built a lot of code specific for my needs.=
 My biggest recommendation is to skip putting automations in the yaml files=
. Use node red, it=E2=80=99s by far the easiest way to migrate. I spent 2 w=
eeks trying to convert using yaml and finally
 gave up. I installed node red and spent 1 day getting to know it and then =
spent 1 day converting everything I had custom in MH. HA is great but lacks=
 saving states when restarted, otherwise I find it much superior to MH. The=
 number of devices it supports is
 amazing!=C2=A0
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Good luck!</div>
<div><br id=3D"m_473772874014208889lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 25, 2024, at 9:35=E2=80=AFAM, Dave Neudoer=
ffer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have worked on this quite a bit over the past several mo=
nths.=C2=A0 I have 3 separate HA/MH installations.=C2=A0 I have been using =
MH for many years, but my son convinced me to add HA into the mix, for exac=
tly the reasons you state.=C2=A0=C2=A0
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As I did a lot of the work on MQTT for MH, I=C2=A0started with an MQTT=
 solution.=C2=A0 However, HA does not publish discovery nor support command=
s on its entities via MQTT.=C2=A0 So I used the REST API to get a round tri=
p=C2=A0 -- commands and some discovery via the REST
 API, state change via MQTT.=C2=A0 This was pretty clumsy still.=C2=A0 So I=
 have more recently implemented a fairly simple HA_Item.pm module that uses=
 the HA Websocket API -- the websocket API hooks right into the event bus i=
n HA, so you get everything.=C2=A0 I was giving
 it some time to settle, and wasn&#39;t sure whether anyone else would be i=
nterested, but I am happy to share the module.=C2=A0 Or I could put togethe=
r an MH push, but that would take me a day or two.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dave</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 9:46=E2=80=AF=
AM H Plato &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Hello,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Is anyone using Home Assistant (HA)? I=E2=80=99ve recently picked up=
 a new new devices, and it is impressive the amount of device support avail=
able in HA. I=E2=80=99d rather spend my time setting up automations than de=
veloping device modules. So I=E2=80=99m thinking about running
 them in parallel, as my MH instance has lots of logic that I don=E2=80=99t=
 know how to replicate in HA, as well as speech for home events, watering m=
oisture calculations, etc=E2=80=A6 HA would be a contained VM that would ho=
ld the devices and maybe the user interface. I mainly
 use the floorplan IA7 interface, and I haven=E2=80=99t seen that in HA yet=
.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Both MH and HA use MQTT, so that could be a communication option, or=
 using web calls. I also have some older tech that still works fine (weeder=
 and W800), which I=E2=80=99ll have to figure out. My hardware is also old,=
 so I=E2=80=99m seeing this as an opportunity to architect
 a bit more of a better solution, by virtualizing everything. <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 Anyone gone down any of these paths?<br>
<br>
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