Re: [mh] mqtt_discovery

Brian M <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Feb 2026 11:17:19 -0800
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Thanks, Dave. That would be great.

              -B.

On 2/14/26 10:42, Dave Neudoerffer wrote:
> Thanx for the trace Brian.  The discovery topics and templates being 
> used are slightly different from anything I have seen before.  It 
> shouldn't be too hard to enhance the MH discovery to handle this.  The 
> Jinja templates are a bit of a nuisance, but I will fudge 
> something...  It will take me a few days to get to this...
>
> Dave
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 7:01 PM Brian M 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Thanks, Dave. Mostly I'm in good shape, but I've got some edge cases.
>
>     My primary problem at the moment seems to be that I can't set the
>     brightness for my ZWave dimmer switches via ZWave-JS-UI. The
>     correct MQTT string in one instance is:
>
>     app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set
>
>     Writing "3" to that MQTT topic (via MQTT-Explorer) causes the
>     light to come on at 3%, as expected. However, in MH setting it to
>     3, '3', or '3%' results in the light being turned on 100%.
>
>     I can't tell if this is a problem in with the discovery itself, or
>     the implementation of of setting the MQTT_DISCOVEREDITEM.  Here
>     are some details:
>
>     The MQTT discovered_item entry:
>
>         MQTT_DISCOVEREDITEM, Upstairs_Landing_Stairs, mqtt_discovery2,
>         app/zwave-js-ui/config/light/Upstairs_Landing-Stairs/dimmer/config,
>         {"command_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set","state_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue","state_value_template":"{{
>         \"OFF\" if value_json.value == 0 else \"ON\"
>         }}","brightness_command_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set","brightness_scale":99,"brightness_state_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue","brightness_value_template":"{{
>         value_json.value
>         }}","on_command_type":"brightness","supported_color_modes":["brightness"],"availability":[{"payload_available":"true","payload_not_available":"false","topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/status","value_template":"{{'true'
>         if value_json.value else
>         'false'}}"},{"topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/_CLIENTS/ZWAVE_GATEWAY-zwave-js-ui/status","value_template":"{{'online'
>         if value_json.value else
>         'offline'}}"},{"payload_available":"true","payload_not_available":"false","topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/driver/status"}],"availability_mode":"all","device":{"identifiers":["zwavejs2mqtt_0xc92945ec_node259"],"manufacturer":"Zooz","model":"Dimmer
>         (ZEN72)","name":"Upstairs_Landing-Stairs","sw_version":"4.0.1"},"name":"Upstairs_Landing_Stairs","unique_id":"zwavejs2mqtt_0xc92945ec_259-38-0-currentValue"}
>
>     Relevant log messages (MQTT debug level 2):
>
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: Pending
>         $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs-->set( 3%, ,  ) cleared
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: unable to process template
>         {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: fishing template value out of
>         json with '$value = $value_json->{value}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: remote item MQTT to MH
>         Upstairs_Landing_Stairs set(95%, '')
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: remote item
>         $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message R:0
>         T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue
>         M:{"time":1771026899727,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: unable to process template
>         {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: fishing template value out of
>         json with '$value = $value_json->{value}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: remote item MQTT to MH
>         Upstairs_Landing_Stairs set(95%, 'mqtt')
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: mqttserver Rcv'd: R:0
>         T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/duration'
>         M:'{"time":1771026899728,"value":{"value":0,"unit":"seconds"},"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: UNHANDLED MESSAGE
>         app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/duration
>         --
>         {"time":1771026899728,"value":{"value":0,"unit":"seconds"},"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: mqttserver Rcv'd: R:0
>         T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue'
>         M:'{"time":1771026899728,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: UNHANDLED MESSAGE
>         app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue
>         --
>         {"time":1771026899728,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: mqttserver Rcv'd: R:0
>         T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue'
>         M:'{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: remote item
>         $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message R:0
>         T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue
>         M:{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: unable to process template
>         {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: fishing template value out of
>         json with '$value = $value_json->{value}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: remote item MQTT to MH
>         Upstairs_Landing_Stairs set(95%, 'mqtt')
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: remote item
>         $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message R:0
>         T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue
>         M:{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: unable to process template
>         {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]: fishing template value out of
>         json with '$value = $value_json->{value}'
>         2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]: remote item MQTT to MH
>         Upstairs_Landing_Stairs set(95%, 'mqtt')
>
>
>     Clearly it's not happy, but I haven't been able to chase down the
>     root cause. BTW, the "95%" mentioned in the logs was the switch's
>     existing brightness level before I tried to change it.
>
>     Hopefully, this is clearer to you than to me.
>
>                               -B.
>
>
>
>
>     On 2/13/26 15:08, Dave Neudoerffer wrote:
>>     You are correct Brian. HA_Item is about mirroring home assistant
>>     entities.  Howard uses HA to host most of his devices and MH for
>>     automations using HA_Items. Without a HA service, HA_Item makes
>>     no sense.
>>
>>     In implementing mqtt_items, I had a few different sources of mqtt
>>     devices, but not a huge variety. No did not have any zwave2mqtt
>>     stuff. I have used the zigbee2mqtt stuff.  I am actually in the
>>     process of enhancing the MH discovery stuff to handle the new HA
>>     device discovery methodology.  If there is something I can help
>>     with, let me know.
>>
>>     Dave
>

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Dave. That would be great.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">             -B.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/14/26 10:42, Dave Neudoerffer
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAOFx8LNRAjgXOCL_V3z_k69w8GfmYN5kiuzAs-A=22L+2Acifw@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanx for the trace Brian.  The discovery topics
        and templates being used are slightly different from anything I
        have seen before.  It shouldn't be too hard to enhance the MH
        discovery to handle this.  The Jinja templates are a bit of a
        nuisance, but I will fudge something...  It will take me a few
        days to get to this...
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Dave</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at
          7:01 PM Brian M &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email protected]"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <p>Thanks, Dave. Mostly I'm in good shape, but I've got some
              edge cases. </p>
            <p>My primary problem at the moment seems to be that I can't
              set the brightness for my ZWave dimmer switches via
              ZWave-JS-UI. The correct MQTT string in one instance is:</p>
            <p>   
app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set</p>
            <p>Writing "3" to that MQTT topic (via MQTT-Explorer) 
              causes the light to come on at 3%, as expected. However,
              in MH setting it to 3, '3', or '3%' results in the light
              being turned on 100%.</p>
            <p>I can't tell if this is a problem in with the discovery
              itself, or the implementation of of setting the
              MQTT_DISCOVEREDITEM.  Here are some details:</p>
            <p>The MQTT discovered_item entry:</p>
            <blockquote>
              <p><font face="monospace">MQTT_DISCOVEREDITEM,
                  Upstairs_Landing_Stairs, mqtt_discovery2,
                  app/zwave-js-ui/config/light/Upstairs_Landing-Stairs/dimmer/config,
{"command_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set","state_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue","state_value_template":"{{
                  \"OFF\" if value_json.value == 0 else \"ON\"
}}","brightness_command_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue/set","brightness_scale":99,"brightness_state_topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue","brightness_value_template":"{{
                  value_json.value
}}","on_command_type":"brightness","supported_color_modes":["brightness"],"availability":[{"payload_available":"true","payload_not_available":"false","topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/status","value_template":"{{'true'
                  if value_json.value else
'false'}}"},{"topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/_CLIENTS/ZWAVE_GATEWAY-zwave-js-ui/status","value_template":"{{'online'
                  if value_json.value else
'offline'}}"},{"payload_available":"true","payload_not_available":"false","topic":"app/zwave-js-ui/driver/status"}],"availability_mode":"all","device":{"identifiers":["zwavejs2mqtt_0xc92945ec_node259"],"manufacturer":"Zooz","model":"Dimmer
(ZEN72)","name":"Upstairs_Landing-Stairs","sw_version":"4.0.1"},"name":"Upstairs_Landing_Stairs","unique_id":"zwavejs2mqtt_0xc92945ec_259-38-0-currentValue"}</font></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p>Relevant log messages (MQTT debug level 2):</p>
            <blockquote>
              <p><font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  Pending $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs--&gt;set( 3%, ,  )
                  cleared</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  unable to process template
                  {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  fishing template value out of json with '$value =
                  $value_json-&gt;{value}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  remote item MQTT to MH Upstairs_Landing_Stairs
                  set(95%, '')</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  remote item $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue</a> 
M:{"time":1771026899727,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  unable to process template
                  {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  fishing template value out of json with '$value =
                  $value_json-&gt;{value}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  remote item MQTT to MH Upstairs_Landing_Stairs
                  set(95%, 'mqtt')</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  mqttserver Rcv'd: <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/duration</a>'
M:'{"time":1771026899728,"value":{"value":0,"unit":"seconds"},"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  UNHANDLED MESSAGE
app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/duration
                  --
{"time":1771026899728,"value":{"value":0,"unit":"seconds"},"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  mqttserver Rcv'd: <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue</a>'
M:'{"time":1771026899728,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  UNHANDLED MESSAGE
app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/targetValue
                  --
{"time":1771026899728,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  mqttserver Rcv'd: <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:'app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue</a>'
M:'{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  remote item $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue</a> 
M:{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  unable to process template
                  {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  fishing template value out of json with '$value =
                  $value_json-&gt;{value}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  remote item MQTT to MH Upstairs_Landing_Stairs
                  set(95%, 'mqtt')</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  remote item $Upstairs_Landing_Stairs received message
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">R:0</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true">T:app/zwave-js-ui/Upstairs_Landing/Stairs/switch_multilevel/endpoint_0/currentValue</a> 
M:{"time":1771026899858,"value":95,"nodeName":"Stairs","nodeLocation":"Upstairs_Landing"}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  unable to process template
                  {{"OFF"ifvalue_json.value==0else"ON"}}</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D2]:
                  fishing template value out of json with '$value =
                  $value_json-&gt;{value}'</font><br>
                <font face="monospace">2026-02-13 15:54:59 [MQTT D1]:
                  remote item MQTT to MH Upstairs_Landing_Stairs
                  set(95%, 'mqtt')</font></p>
            </blockquote>
            <p><br>
              Clearly it's not happy, but I haven't been able to chase
              down the root cause. BTW, the "95%" mentioned in the logs
              was the switch's existing brightness level before I tried
              to change it.</p>
            <p>Hopefully, this is clearer to you than to me.</p>
            <p>                          -B.</p>
            <p><br>
            </p>
            <p><br>
            </p>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>On 2/13/26 15:08, Dave Neudoerffer wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="auto">
                <div>You are correct Brian. HA_Item is about mirroring
                  home assistant entities.  Howard uses HA to host most
                  of his devices and MH for automations using HA_Items.
                  Without a HA service, HA_Item makes no sense. </div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir="auto">In implementing mqtt_items, I had a few
                  different sources of mqtt devices, but not a huge
                  variety. No did not have any zwave2mqtt stuff. I have
                  used the zigbee2mqtt stuff.  I am actually in the
                  process of enhancing the MH discovery stuff to handle
                  the new HA device discovery methodology.  If there is
                  something I can help with, let me know. </div>
                <div dir="auto"><br>
                </div>
                <div dir="auto">Dave</div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
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