Re: [protege-user] Saving ontographs constructed with instances and classes

Hi Igor,

Thank you for your full answer.

Cheers,
Jean-Louis

Le 08/02/2025 à 16:41, Igor Toujilov a écrit :
> Hi Jean-Louis,
> UI means User Interface (what you see on the screen and buttons you 
> click) which is opposed to the application business logic (main 
> functionality behind the UI). Bugs in the business logic usually very 
> serious as they can disrupt everything. Bugs in the UI, while being 
> annoying, are less serious and frequently neglected. Java UI is 
> notoriously known as a habitat of bugs because usually it is not 
> properly designed. Programming UI requires careful consideration of 
> many threads, running concurrently. Those threads handle events which 
> usually are organised in queues (software engineering structures), 
> what you see in the error messages.
> Protégé currently is not actively maintained. OntoGraf is a plugin 
> developed by other people. It may also be not actively maintained now. 
> Bugs might reside in the main Protégé code and/or in OntoGraf.
> Cheers,
> Igor
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 08, 2025 at 9:11 AM
> *From:* "Jean-Louis Janin" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [protege-user] Saving ontographs constructed with 
> instances and classes
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you, Igor, for your advice. That is what I am doing, and it is 
> still possible to save the image of a completed ontotgraph, if not the 
> .graph file itself.
>
> I am wondering what is "UI" for in your message? What do you mean by 
> "main functionality" ? I attache the error message behind the red 
> triange, after trying to re-open the graph saved on the "Total" 
> instance" of "Code activité économique CITI" class. What does "queue" 
> means" in this message ? It seems to be related to the OntoGraph 
> functionnality. Could it be corrected in a new release of Protégé 
> desktop ?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jean-Louis Janin
>
> Le 08/02/2025 à 01:28, Igor Toujilov via protege-user a écrit :
>
>     There are various bugs manifesting in the UI quite frequently.
>     Most of them do not disrupt the main functionality. Click on the
>     red triangle to see the bug message. After closing the message box
>     the red triangle disappears.
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2025 at 3:19 PM
>     *From:* "Michael DeBellis" <[email protected]>
>     *To:* [email protected], "User support for WebProtege and
>     Protege Desktop" <[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: [protege-user] Saving ontographs constructed with
>     instances and classes
>     I don't use OntoGraph much but a couple of thoughts:
>     1) I didn't see what the error message was (but I can see there is
>     one by the red triangle in the lower right corner). You might want
>     to do Window>Show Log (about 3rd item from the bottom). That will
>     show the log and the error message and you can send a screen
>     shot of that. That will help debug the problem.
>     2) I notice you didn't run the reasoner in any of those screen
>     captures. I doubt that will fix the problem but just wanted to
>     point out make sure you do that. Especially for new users it is a
>     good idea to run the reasoner often. I recommend after every
>     change that could have some impact on the logic. If you have one
>     error the reasoner can usually point you right to it (sometimes
>     the messages are a bit cryptic if you aren't used to reading them
>     but people on this list can help with that) but if you have say 5
>     or more errors the reasoner often can't give much more info than
>     that the ontology is inconsistent.
>     Michael
>     https://www.michaeldebellis.com/blog
>     On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 6:38 AM Jean-Louis Janin
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>         Hello again,
>
>         Some screen shots attached. Why this error message when
>         opening the
>         saged file's graph ?
>
>         Jean-Louis Janin
>
>
>         Le 06/02/2025 à 15:00, Jean-Louis Janin a écrit :
>         > Hello,
>         >
>         > With Desktop version 5.6.4 of Protégé, it is possible to save an
>         > ontograph's file constructed on some classes withOntoGraph.
>         Why is it
>         > not possible to do the same with an ontogoraph file
>         consructed on a
>         > class a and instances of that class ?
>         >
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