Re: [FYI] log of IRC #kannel session

I read through the irc session. Here is my view on it:

I would like Kannel to be as much independent as possible. Every 
dependency adds restrictions. This is true in a technical sense as well 
as in a legal sense. So when we add a dependency we should be pretty 
clear on what the benefits of it are.

As far as going into direction of Apache, I clearly don't see any 
benefit. The only benefit I see is the well known name but what does it 
bring us in reality? Nothing really. As far as the license change goes, 
I don't see a need to change unless we clearly come to the conclusion 
that Kannel must be part of the Apache "group". Thats the only reason. 
So changing from Kannel license to apache license is not the question 
to ask, the question to ask is do we want to go to Apache group or not.

And changing the license would require every contributor's consensus on 
this. Which means if one person says no, then his code can not be put 
under a new license anyway.  And also who is the contributor in some 
cases is not even clear. For example recent work of Aarno on wap push 
stuff was done as an employee of Global Networks (which means global 
networks has paid for this code and owns it), but there is older code 
of Aarno as himself and under WapIT and maybe some other employers. 
Same goes for many people on this list I guess. What I'm trying to say 
here, changing the license type would open a pandora's box of question 
and only makes sense if there is a very very strong reason to do.

In other words, unless someone can tell me WHY we are even thinking of 
changing the licenses make's sense, I would say no to any change. So 
far I have not seen anyone even mentioning any benefits.

Personally I see the Kannel Software Foundation as the better approach. 
It can be a legal entity which then could sue Microsoft for borrowing 
the code without mentioning their product is based on Kannel. Or a 
common consensus can override an individual's veto and resolves issues.

On Samstag, September 20, 2003, at 10:09  Uhr, Stipe Tolj wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> thanks a lot for the people who participated in the Friday IRC
> meeting.
> A transcript/log of the session can be found for review at:
>
>   http://www.kannel.org/irc-sessions/
>
> Stipe
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