Re: [RFC] Call for more development participation

Angel Fradejas wrote:
> 
> But here, to be frank, I have certain bad feelings that my contributions
> (not only code, but also ideas, suggestions, RFCs, etc.) have not been very
> sucessful (surely for very good reasons), but anyway you cannot abstract
> from that feelings.
> 
> It comes to my minf for example discussing the need to make billing-info
> flow from smsbox to bearerbox (and there were several patches for that, not
> mine I have to say), and everybody replying that billing were something
> outside the scope of kannel, and so on, so we had the extra work of keeping
> that kind of patch in sync with cvs version, and then one day, voilá,
> &binfo= appears without any further explanation. That is the kind of
> randomness I'm referring to.
> 
> Nobody takes offense from my comments, please.
> 
> I'm just trying to explain my thoughts.

we're definetly thankfull for this. And I *do* agree that it has been
(in a sense of way) randomness.

My explanation to this is hence the coherent fact that there have been
too few people actively taking the ability to discuss.

I have a good counter-example where colaboration in fact *did* work,
even while the essential part hasn't been solved. Think of the
discussion in joining the ASF as project. Andreas had concerns about
this and did not give up in trying to express them and convince people
about his concerns.

In fact this "brainstorming" was one the last good things I remember
in having a real group-orientated concensus.

That's what Alex and me are missing -- active group consensus.

This also includes making suggestions, makeing patches, envisioning
possibilities and getting refused by the group. It's like in political
life, if you're in the role of the opposition, does it mean that you
stop being active, critical to the active government party "only"
because you can't force changes and opinions? No. I consider this as a
long-term issue.

Personally, I'm very thankfull and honorebly respect the work Angel
and his company contributed to Kannel. -- (and I liked to talk we had
in Hannover ;) -- so please keep rolling....

Stipe

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