Re: [PATCH] start-at-boot / userguide
Juan Nin <[email protected]>
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Sounds good! Thanks! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Stipe Tolj <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 03.10.2012 22:36, schrieb Juan Nin: > >> Was this ever commited? >> > > Hi Juan, > > nop, this never made it's way to the SVN trunk. I'm winding this up right > now. > > All I'd like to change is the name of the config directive, and use > 'dead-start = no' (as default). The term "boot" is something strange to me > here, even while I know what Alejandro means of course. > > Stipe > > > >> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Juan Nin <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> See attached patch for adding the start-at-boot directive (smsc >> group) to the Kannel User's Guide. >> This was the only missing part so as to get Alejandro Guerrieri's >> start-at-boot patch into the main tree. >> >> Regards, >> >> Juan >> >> >> On 5/15/11 6:53 AM, Hillel wrote: >> >> Hi Alejandro, >> >> Have you been able to commit your start-at-boot patch? >> >> thanks >> >> From: Alejandro Guerrieri<aguerrieri@kannel.__**org >> <mailto:[email protected]>**> >> To: Alexander Malysh<[email protected] <mailto: >> [email protected]>> >> Cc: Kannel Devel<[email protected] <mailto: >> [email protected]>> >> >> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone >> Message-ID:<0357DE26-1F81-__**4C34-96E7-078482437284@kannel.** >> __org >> <mailto:0357DE26-1F81-4C34-**[email protected]<[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Thanks Alex, >> >> I'll write the userguide part and commit. >> >> Regards, >> >> Alex >> -- >> Alejandro Guerrieri >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> On 19/04/2011, at 11:52, Alexander Malysh wrote: >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> IMHO this option is not really needed and is only workaround >> about a fact >> >> that bearerbox >> >> is unable to reload configuration without restart. But >> reload is much >> >> bigger implementation as >> >> this simple "hack". If this "hack" will help much people to >> do cleaner >> >> configuration now then I'm >> >> not voting against this feature. >> >> Alex, please update userguide and commit this patch if >> nobody has any >> >> objections. >> >> I'm +0 >> >> Thanks, >> Alexander Malysh >> >> Am 19.04.2011 um 10:49 schrieb Alejandro Guerrieri: >> >> For KISS's sake, this doesn't clutter configuration nor >> breaks backwards >> >> compatibility. It doesn't hurt performance either. >> >> If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely, >> the default >> >> behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at >> boot as usual, >> so no harm's done. >> >> Where do we trace the "absolutely necessary" line is of >> course fuzzy, but >> >> from what I read seems like other users would find it useful as >> well. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Alejandro Guerrieri >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> On 19/04/2011, at 05:19, Nikos Balkanas wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> wapbox must be kept around because of backwards >> compatibility, that is a >> >> must for all open source software. Users are still using it. >> >> Finally I would like to add my support for keeping >> configuration >> >> explosion in check. Otherwise, what a few people might gain in >> convenience, >> a lot of people might have to pay for it in terms of kannel >> support due to >> more difficult configuration. Some golden rules in configuration >> are: >> >> 1) KISS >> 2) Don't expand it, unless it is absolutely necessary. >> >> Stopping service to modify configuration is a no-no. >> Commenting a >> >> configuration file off-line is convenience. >> >> My 2 cents, >> Nikos >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Nin >> To: Kannel Devel >> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 AM >> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone >> >> >> That's what we do today, but the idea is not to have >> to do any "extra" >> >> work, neither having to comment/uncomment things out, nor have >> to add/remove >> config files. >> >> >> Having the start-at-boot directive allows you to >> just keep the >> >> configuration defined, but the smsc does not start. >> >> So anytime you need it, you just use the start-smsc >> and then the >> >> stop-smsc. >> >> This is much cleaner IMHO than having to do all the >> extra manual work, >> >> no matter how easy that manual work it may be. >> >> >> A similar discussion was held some months ago, can't >> remember what new >> >> directive it was, where the directive was finally added, since >> it was seen >> it was helpful. >> >> Not all directives are used by everyone or may be >> useful for everybody, >> >> that happens on any piece of software, but does not mean it's >> not useful, >> nor that it should not be added. I don't care about the WAP >> related parts of >> Kannel for example, and that doesn't mean I believe they should >> not exist. >> Adding useful things to Kannel is something that makes Kannel a >> better >> product, so I don't really see why not to add it. Maybe if it >> was something >> complicated that really messed up with the code, could be, but >> this is >> definitely not the case. >> >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> >> 2011/4/18 Nikos Balkanas<[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> What about the HTTP command start-smsc: >> >> It reloads the smsc and starts them from >> configuration. Therefore you >> >> could have the smsc commented out at start, then enable it in the >> configuration and start it from the web interface, without >> stooping kannel. >> Is that not adequate? >> >> BR, >> Nikos >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gottgens" >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]**>> >> >> To: "Alvaro Cornejo"<cornejo.alvaro@gmail.**__com >> <mailto:cornejo.alvaro@gmail.**com<[email protected]> >> >> >> Cc: "Alexander Malysh"<[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]**>__>; "Kannel Devel" >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:24 PM >> >> Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> i second that. Having the ability to start kannel >> with some of the binds >> >> down >> >> is so much easier in HA/Failover environments. >> >> Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31:05 PM, you wrote: >> >> AC> Hi Alex >> >> AC> Another use would be when having backup links. >> I do use over 20 >> >> modems >> >> AC> but not have all enabled at start. In order to >> not to have to reload >> AC> kannel when a new modem is needed, I do start >> kannel and then stop >> >> all >> >> AC> the backup modems and I have to do the same >> whenever I restart >> >> kannel >> >> AC> or the server >> >> AC> I'll love to have this feature in standard kannel >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Thomas >> mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]**> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > ------------------------------**------------------------------**------- > Kölner Landstrasse 419 > 40589 Düsseldorf, NRW, Germany > > tolj.org system architecture Kannel Software Foundation (KSF) > http://www.tolj.org/ http://www.kannel.org/ > > mailto:st_{at}_tolj.org mailto:stolj_{at}_kannel.org > ------------------------------**------------------------------**------- > >