Re: Thunder screen reader

aloha, again!

to turn off the mouse noises in NVDA, you need to open the NVDA context
menu (if you are on the desktop, NVDA will either be in your system 
tray or where the application tabs are listed -- right click on either,
and:

1. from the NVDA main context menu, choose "preferences"

2. from the resultant sub-menu, choose "mouse settings"

3. when the "mouse settings" property sheet (the thingy with the 
checkboxes and other form controls) is generated, press TAB 5 times to 
get to the checked checkbox labelled: "play audio coordinates when mouse 
moves" -- press SpaceBar to uncheck the checkbox, then TAB to the the
"ok" button

4. return focus to the NVDA icon in the System Tray or application
TabBar, and press "s" to select "Save Configuration"

remember, whenever you change an NVDA setting which you wish to 
persist every time you use NVDA, you need to "Save Configuration"
using the main NVDA context menu, and the 4 steps listed above 
will disable mouse audio coordinates...

jamie and mick -- i have had more people (blind, low vision & sighted) 
comment on how strange and off-putting it is to have mouse audio 
coordinates on by default -- for some reason, it presents a barrier too 
far and subliminally signals that this isn't a screen reader for the
average user, when -- to the contrary -- NVDA is easy to learn and 
master, AND because if you use eSpeak, there is a rich pallette of 
voices to choose from (one box on which i use NVDA exclusively is set
to en-wi -- west indian english pronounciation, for user interface 
info and en-gb -- "standard" british pronunciation for content)

and, let me add, best wishes with the second operation,
gregory
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From: Chris McMillan <[email protected]>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <[email protected]>
Cc: Chrissa <[email protected]>, dev-
[email protected]
Sent: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:45:35 +0000
Subject: Re: Thunder screen reader

> In message <[email protected]>, Gregory J. 
> Rosmaita <[email protected]> writes
> >aloha!
> >
> >i agree with steve, in that if you are going to use a screen
> >reader, you might as well use the best, most up-to-date and
> >technologically advanced screen reader, NVDA
> >
> I remember now what my first problem/question is about NVDA.  I 
> am fairly high partially sighted and use a mouse at all times. I 
> wouldn't need to use the audible tracking sounds.  Can they be 
> turned off in NVDA? > I did download the program again yesterday 
> and read the documentation but the audible sound I found rather 
> distracting as I tried to find my way about the screen using my 
> limited vision following an operation. Its awfully powerful 
> isn't it! AS it should be of course. >
> >as to your particular question concerning Thunder keystrokes:
> >
> >Document Read = Left CTRL + ALT + Down Arrow Key
> >Document Read Pause = Up or Down Arrow key
> >
> >i am blind and have used thunder and NVDA extensively -- NVDA
> >gets the thumbs up, by a factor of several hundred,
> 
> I also found the Thunder manual buried on my computer from I 
> can't remember when and read that so I now know how to read a 
> whole document - and I now know why you wouldn't want to use it 
> to read a document of hundreds of pages.  (Hundreds of words is 
> what I have been using it for).  What a *boring* voice!
> 
> I will persevere with NVDA and hopefully crack it before my 
> second operation in 11 weeks time (or so).
> 
> Sincerely Chris
> -- 
> Chris McMillan
> http://www.chinavisionuk.org/
> http://www.oneplusone.org.cn
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