Re: aria-describedat?
"Francisco Javier Dorado MartÃnez" <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:51:36 -0500
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Hi all As an end user mainly, I would like to have long descriptions for objects, for an image or link, or video etc. Assistive technology would advice me there is a description for the object, and I would use the extended information show command. E.G. "Where am I" in Orca screen reader. So longdesc would be presented like an ATKObject description. I don't know if this have some sense :-) Just my 2 cents. Regards, Javier On Wed, March 14, 2012 5:10 pm, david bolter wrote: > Yeah I wanted to write some of this but wasn't using a real keyboard. You > are exactly right to draw attention to the chicken and egg problem, and my > comment about popular addons was not meant to be specific to longdesc or > describedat. > > All, I've mostly avoided the longdesc debate since there are so many other > things on our plates that are worthwhile and easier to move forward. I > looked at bug 1996 years ago. I'd say whatever we do, we need to avoid > repeating the long history of debate. All that's really left is mockups, > code, or addons. > > Mozilla Firefox is a community run project and I suspect I would consider > most of the people on this list part of the community. Some discussion of > influence is here: http://www.mozilla.org/about/roles.html That page > links > to module owners etc. > > Cheers, > D > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Alexander Surkov < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think this add-on will beat records. We deal here with >> chicken-egg problem: browsers don't support, web authors don't use it. >> >> I don't have strong opinion about UI for longdesc. If the spec doesn't >> require the browser to do that then we need to delegate the answer of >> this question to HTML w3c gurus at Mozilla. From accessibility point >> of view we always can provide a special support it for ATs. >> >> Alex. >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:48 PM, david bolter <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Popular addons definitely get attention for in-product consideration. >> > Cheers, >> > D >> > >> > On Mar 14, 2012 5:42 PM, "Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis" >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM, david bolter >> <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I'm right here :) >> >> > >> >> > Did anyone ever write an addon? Should be straightforward and would >> help >> >> > move forward. >> >> >> >> Well, I've linked to the addon that Charles wrote for Opera to give >> >> some idea of what I have in mind. >> >> >> >> Patrick Lauke wrote a longdesc addon that just adds a context menu >> >> action a million years ago: >> >> >> >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/longdesc/ >> >> >> >> I've toyed with the idea of writing an addon, but I'm not entirely >> >> clear if it would move things forward or not. Patrick's attempt all >> >> those years ago doesn't seem to have helped much. In particular, I'm >> >> worried that the existence of an addon gives the impression that this >> >> functionality does not need to built in to browsers so as to be >> >> available at the point of use. >> >> >> >> Do you really think putting together a new addon would help? >> >> >> >> At the very least, I should imagine anyone putting effort into this >> >> would want some sort of buy-in from Firefox gatekeepers that some >> sort >> >> of built-in UI might be appropriate further down the line. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis >> > _______________________________________________ > dev-accessibility mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-accessibility > -- Correo enviado desde webmail.