Re: aria-describedat?

"Francisco Javier Dorado Martínez" <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:51:36 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mozilla.accessibility
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi all

As an end user mainly, I would like to have long descriptions
for objects, for an image or link, or video etc.
Assistive technology would advice me there is a description for the
object, and I would use the extended information show command. E.G. "Where
am I" in Orca screen reader.
So longdesc would be presented like an ATKObject description.
I don't know if this have some sense :-)

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Javier

On Wed, March 14, 2012 5:10 pm, david bolter wrote:
> Yeah I wanted to write some of this but wasn't using a real keyboard. You
> are exactly right to draw attention to the chicken and egg problem, and my
> comment about popular addons was not meant to be specific to longdesc or
> describedat.
>
> All, I've mostly avoided the longdesc debate since there are so many other
> things on our plates that are worthwhile and easier to move forward. I
> looked at bug 1996 years ago. I'd say whatever we do, we need to avoid
> repeating the long history of debate. All that's really left is mockups,
> code, or addons.
>
> Mozilla Firefox is a community run project and I suspect I would consider
> most of the people on this list part of the community. Some discussion of
> influence is here: http://www.mozilla.org/about/roles.html  That page
> links
> to module owners etc.
>
> Cheers,
> D
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Alexander Surkov <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think this add-on will beat records. We deal here with
>> chicken-egg problem: browsers don't support, web authors don't use it.
>>
>> I don't have strong opinion about UI for longdesc. If the spec doesn't
>> require the browser to do that then we need to delegate the answer of
>> this question to HTML w3c gurus at Mozilla. From accessibility point
>> of view we always can provide a special support it for ATs.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:48 PM, david bolter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Popular addons definitely get attention for in-product consideration.
>> > Cheers,
>> > D
>> >
>> > On Mar 14, 2012 5:42 PM, "Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis"
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM, david bolter
>> <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'm right here :)
>> >> >
>> >> > Did anyone ever write an addon? Should be straightforward and would
>> help
>> >> > move forward.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I've linked to the addon that Charles wrote for Opera to give
>> >> some idea of what I have in mind.
>> >>
>> >> Patrick Lauke wrote a longdesc addon that just adds a context menu
>> >> action a million years ago:
>> >>
>> >>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/longdesc/
>> >>
>> >> I've toyed with the idea of writing an addon, but I'm not entirely
>> >> clear if it would move things forward or not. Patrick's attempt all
>> >> those years ago doesn't seem to have helped much. In particular, I'm
>> >> worried that the existence of an addon gives the impression that this
>> >> functionality does not need to built in to browsers so as to be
>> >> available at the point of use.
>> >>
>> >> Do you really think putting together a new addon would help?
>> >>
>> >> At the very least, I should imagine anyone putting effort into this
>> >> would want some sort of buy-in from Firefox gatekeepers that some
>> sort
>> >> of built-in UI might be appropriate further down the line.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
>>
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