Re: Venkman planning for Gecko 1.9

On the other hand, it has perhaps about 30% of the JS debugging features 
Venkman has (profiling? freezing js execution in other windows? ignoring 
files while debugging? setting evaluation objects? pretty print?), and 
the code is generally speaking harder to hack than Venkman (at least, 
several people seem to believe this). From a security perspective, some 
of Firebug's features (notably console logging etc.) are also a bit 
problematic at the moment (see version history for 1.02 and 1.03 on 
addons.mozilla.org).

~ Gijs

John J. Barton wrote:
> Any interest in an alternative: extending Firebug to XUL? I have made 
> some progress in adapting Firebug to debug Firefox extensions and to 
> have it run on FF3. Most of the needed changes for extensions will also 
> apply to XUL apps; the only major difference is the start-up logic.
> 
> At this point there might be more Firebug expertise than Venkman 
> expertise and considerably more users; rather than bitrotted, Firebug is 
> arguably better positioned to deal with new issues like css and dynamic 
> code.
> 
> John.
> 
> 
> Alex Vincent wrote:
>> Over the last couple years, the Mozilla code base has evolved 
>> significantly on the trunk. Unfortunately, development on the 
>> JavaScript Debugger has not kept pace - the code has "bitrotted" 
>> significantly, and introduced significant bugs.
>>
>> This is a serious problem. It's equally serious that no one is hacking 
>> on it. I've found it to be a very useful tool for working on chrome 
>> code, and XULRunner apps would benefit from having a debugger handy.
>>
>> So here's what I want to do. I want to schedule a weekend meeting for 
>> 2 pm PDT Saturday [1] at #venkman on moznet [2]. The goal, as I see 
>> it, is to plan fixing Venkman so it is usable on the XULRunner 1.9 
>> platform. (Getting it working on Firefox 3 would be a nice thing, 
>> too.) I want to see who's willing to contribute hours (weeks, more 
>> likely) of coding and/or reviewing to this goal. In particular, I'm 
>> worried about trying to find out whatever API changes are needed in 
>> Venkman itself (not what API Venkman has to call) and getting them in 
>> before 1.9 branches.
>>
>> Watch my weblog [3] for more details; I'll write up a draft plan for 
>> the meeting, so we have some things to think about.
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=9&day=1&hour=22&min=0&sec=0 
>>
>> [2] irc://irc.mozilla.org/#venkman
>> [3] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/weirdal/
>>
>> Alex Vincent