Re: PDF: open with preview file storage

Christopher Jahn wrote:
> Moz Champion <[email protected]> wrote in news:cvdjn5$b136
> @ripley.netscape.com:
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>>Christopher Jahn wrote:
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>>>Chris Green <[email protected]> wrote in 
>>>news:[email protected]:
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>>>>Christopher Jahn <[email protected]> writes:
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>>>>>>How can I store these "open with" files somewhere other than
>>>>>>Desktop?  They are not stored in browser.download.dir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>Tools-Options-Downloads.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In firefox 1.0, there is no "options" on OS X downlaods.  Under
>>>>preferences there is a downloads button with a downloads folder set
>>>>to /Users/cmgreen/Desktop/Downloads/.  Files that are opened with
>>>>preview still are saved on the desktop.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I still can't get the reasoning for having a program behave 
> 
> differently 
> 
>>>just because it's on another OS.  If you have the option to choose the 
>>>download folder in one OS, what idiot reason could there be for not 
>>>having that feature on a MAC?
>>>
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>>I still cant get the reasoning for having a user condemn what he doesnt 
>>understand <g>
> 
> 
> I understand logic; I do not understand the problem we're discussing.
> 
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>>See my other post, it IS there, its simply under another menu on the 
>>Macintosh. And why? Because its a different operating system, with 
>>different priorities and places
>>
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> 
> BUT it's the same program.  I expect a program to have its own priorities 
> that are consistent and independent of the OS. If [fitb] is in the FILE 
> menu on one OS, I expect it there on EVERY OS.  No reason for a change 
> that I can see.
> 

No reason that you can see? Then you dont understand the different OS 
and their guidelines.

Both Microsoft (for Windows) and Apple for OS X, set standards and 
guidelines for where specific items are placed and in which menu they 
belong.
For example, in this specific example, Microsoft dictates that the TOOLS 
to change the settings go under the Tools menu, while on the Apple 
system, they rightly belong in the <Program Name> menu under Preferences.

Each operating system has its own values and priorities, and the 
guidelines for each (as set by the manufacturer) are different.
Earlier on in the Windows system for example, each program could decree 
what CMD P stood for, with the result that different programs used the 
key combination for quite some different tasks.  Microsoft finally laid 
down the 'law' with its guidelines and Cmd P in now Print across the 
spectrum. Apple always had strict guidelines for its user interface, 
i.e. standardized menus for ALL program
Apple/Program Name/File/Edit   are always there (on the Apple). 
Microsoft didnt specify the Program Name menu and as such it doesnt exist!

Many of the original key combinations were based on the Apple Gui
P for Print  C for Copy V for Paste X for Cut for example - Microsoft 
later made these standard as well.
Windows has right click options, because ALL Microsoft windows OS and 
compatible mice had two buttons (or more). There is no equivalent on the 
Mac OS, because Mac mice come with one button.  Some conventions have to 
be invented for cross platform programs, on Mozilla products, some right 
click (windows) functions are click and hold on the Mac for example.

You expect a FILE menu you say. Because Apple dictated what goes in the 
FILE menu, and Microsoft later adopted many of the same standards for 
its interface when it standardized menus. Linux followed the Windows 
layout in most cases, but not always.  Because the STANDARDS which 
govern what goes where on each platform are different!  The Preferences 
in Linux are under the Edit menu, they are under the Program Name Menu 
in OS X and because Microsoft dictates so, they are under the Tools menu 
in Windows!

If Mozilla use the Tools menu (i.e.  Tools-->Options--->Preferences or 
some such) then they would be breaking the Apple and Linux guidelines 
for user interfaces. If Mozilla used the Program Name menu (i.e. 
Mozilla-->Preferences) then it would be breaking both Microsoft AND 
Linux guidelines for user interfaces. If Mozilla use the Edit menu (i.e. 
Edit--Preferences) then it would be breaking Microsoft and Apple 
guidelines for user interfaces.  So each version for each OS users its own.

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