Re: Auto-reload when coming back online
Gijs Kruitbosch <[email protected]> Fri, 18 Mar 2016 10:20:34 +0000
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4752374289904085848== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080006050100090105060302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080006050100090105060302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd also say there are "interesting" privacy aspects to this, and it=20 might violate the principle of least surprise if we automatically=20 reloaded the page. If I'm trying to load www.mydatingsite.com on my way=20 to work, and the signal on the subway/tube is too rubbish to do so, I=20 might not necessarily want it to be loaded automatically once I connect=20 to the (employer-monitored) work wifi... Such a situation is likely to=20 be the minority case, but we should keep it in mind when designing such=20 a feature. ~ Gijs On 18/03/2016 05:07, Matthew N. wrote: > I think the main problem was that Necko (networking in Gecko) didn't=20 > have good, if any, detection of network changes until recently. There=20 > has been work on this in the last year but I don't know the current=20 > state of it and it may vary by platform. There is discussion on=20 > mozilla.dev.tech.network today about network change detection and IPv6=20 > so I think it's something still on the radar. > > CC'ing mozilla.dev.tech.network to see what the Necko team has to say=20 > about whether we can support this in Firefox yet. > > Matthew N. (:MattN) > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Bram Pitoyo <[email protected]=20 > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > If a URL is loaded when there=92s no internet connection, Firefox > will throw an error page, as expected. > > But if my internet is back online, I still have to manually reload > this site. I would like to propose a slightly different behaviour: > pages that fail to load while the browser is offline should reload > automatically. > > The result: > > * I know that my internet is back on because Firefox now shows > the page I had failed to load > * I save a little bit of time by not needing to click =93Reload=94 > or hit Ctrl+R > > Have we thought of a behaviour like this? > > _______________________________________________ > firefox-dev mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > firefox-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev --------------080006050100090105060302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">I'd also say there are "interesting" privacy aspects to this, and it might violate the principle of least surprise if we automatically reloaded the page. If I'm trying to load <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"http:/= /www.mydatingsite.com">www.mydatingsite.com</a> on my way to work, and th= e signal on the subway/tube is too rubbish to do so, I might not necessarily want it to be loaded automatically once I connect to the (employer-monitored) work wifi... Such a situation is likely to be the minority case, but we should keep it in mind when designing such a feature.<br> <br> ~ Gijs<br> <br> On 18/03/2016 05:07, Matthew N. wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:CANcCaXdVug3NUgWJNue0N=3D1ec=3DDz+Jt_aOGDBBLKMqwosi73Sg@mail.= gmail.com" type=3D"cite"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think the main problem was that Necko (networking in Gecko) didn't have good, if any, detection of network changes until recently. There has been work on this in the last year but I don't know the current state of it and it may vary by platform. There is discussion on mozilla.dev.tech.network today about network change detection and IPv6 so I think it's something still on the radar.<br> <br> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">CC'ing mozilla.dev.tech.network to see what the Necko team has to say about whether we can support this in Firefox yet.<br> <br> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Matthew N. (:MattN)<br> </div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Bram Pitoyo <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">bram@moz= illa.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div> <div>If a URL is loaded when there=92s no internet connection, Firefox will throw an error page, as expected.<br> <br> </div> But if my internet is back online, I still have to manually reload this site. I would like to propose a slightly different behaviour: pages that fail to load while the browser is offline should reload automatically.<br> <br> The result:<br> <ul> <li>I know that my internet is back on because Firefox now shows the page I had failed to load</li> <li>I save a little bit of time by not needing to click =93Reload=94 or hit Ctrl+R<br> </li> </ul> </div> Have we thought of a behaviour like this?<br> </div> <br> _______________________________________________<br> firefox-dev mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">firefox-dev@mozilla= .org</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.mozilla.o= rg/listinfo/firefox-dev</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> <br> <fieldset class=3D"mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap=3D"">_______________________________________________ firefox-dev mailing list <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:firefox-dev@mozilla.= org">[email protected]</a> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://mail.mozilla.org/listi= nfo/firefox-dev">https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------080006050100090105060302-- --===============4752374289904085848== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ firefox-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev --===============4752374289904085848==--