Re: Java plugin phase out timeline

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your prompt response.  We use Vidyo, Inc. plugin, called
VidyoWeb.

In Chrome, they have a browser extension.  For Safari, IE, and FF, we
execute NPAPI code - based on browser detection.  Edge - we detect and tell
the customer to switch browsers :)  This is less than ideal, but WebRTC
does not meet some of our needs - and we see very good video quality at
lower bandwidths using this tech stack.

In any case, we really want to understand the plans and align ourselves.
This is a healthcare use case (I guess I could correspond officially from
my corporate email), with some of our population being the elderly - so we
want things to be easy.


So looking at what you shared - effective March 7th, the patients who's FF
automatically updates would not be able to sign in.

1)  Is there a transitional version planned prior to that, where upon
update - all plugins default to a blacklist?  In other words, is there
suppose a v51 - where upon update, VidyoWeb gets blacklisted and we need to
send out instructions to patients to unblock or whitelist VidyoWeb?   (We
are investigating a long term solution that is not dependent on NPAPI - but
I just want to understand, in case management wants keep the NPAPI track
open until the end - how we can manage messaging to users on the site and
appropriately detect the browser to handle the various scenarios here)


Thanks

Suril

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Chris Peterson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I believe Firefox 52 will completely disable NPAPI without any manual pref
> override or whitelist (except for Flash).
>
> The Firefox 52 release is planned for March 7, 2017. I updated the release
> calendar wiki:
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar#Future_branch_dates
>
> What is the NPAPI plugin that your organization uses for video
> conferencing? Google Hangouts? Does your organization have a solution for
> Chrome or Edge? They don't support NPAPI plugins.
>
>
> chris
>
>
> On 7/18/16 2:06 PM, Suril Patel wrote:
>
>> Hi Benjamin (or other associate),
>>
>> I am trying to follow, but I think I am a little confused by the latest
>> exchange.  We use an NPAPI plugin for Video conferencing, as part of very
>> large (millions) consumer facing organization.
>>
>> Per what I understood previously, Version 52, will Beta Release on Jan 23
>> or Jan 24.  The actual general release date - I don't see it, but I am
>> curious.
>>
>> 1)  Will v52 - releasing in Q1 - by default blacklist all NPAPI plugins?
>> 2)  Thus, the user if he wishes to use an NPAPI plugin, he will have to
>> manually go somewhere to "enable" or "whitelist" plugins individually or
>> is
>> it a setting for all?  Any insights here are helpful.
>> 3)  What is general release date for v52?
>> 4)  I assume v53, which is April 2017 will completely disable NPAPI, with
>> no manual override.
>>
>> I want to clarify - in our case, ESR versions are not part of the picture
>> -
>> as our audience is millions of consumers, who will follow the general
>> release sequence of Firefox, with Auto-update (as an example, I am one of
>> them, who recently got upgraded to v47).
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Suril
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Benjamin Smedberg <[email protected]
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> The Firefox release calendar can be found at
>>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
>>>
>>> --BDS
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Java Dev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 11:36:36 AM UTC-4, Benjamin Smedberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually Chris, my plan was to do this in Firefox 52, not wait for
>>>>>
>>>> Firefox
>>>>
>>>>> 53.
>>>>>
>>>>> --BDS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the quick reply. Just to clarify, what is the scheduled
>>>> release time frame/date for Firefox version 52 which would block all
>>>>
>>> NPAPI
>>>
>>>> plugins? Also, is it still the case that users who need NPAPI support
>>>> can
>>>> switch to Firefox ESR 52 and keep using NPAPI plugins until May 2018?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Alexandra
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