Re: The Whiteboard Tag Amnesty

I'm confused. How are keywords not permissionless? I frequently see new 
bugs filed with the first keyword from the sorted list 
("ateam-something-or-other") by people who seem to be intent on "just 
filing a bug in bugzilla", that is otherwise contentless. I must assume 
that these people have no bugzilla permission bits set other than those 
granted new accounts.

~ Gijs

On 08/06/2016 22:08, Patrick McManus wrote:
> as you note the whiteboard tags are permissionless. That's their 
> killer property. Keywords as you note are not, that's their critical 
> weakness.
>
> instead of fixing that situation in the "long term" can we please fix 
> that as a precondition of converting things? Mozilla doesn't need more 
> centralized systems. If they can't be 100% automated to be 
> permissionless (e.g. perhaps because they don't scale) then the new 
> arrangement of things is definitely worse.
>
> I'll note that even for triage, our eventual system evolved rapidly 
> and putting an administrator in the middle to add and drop keywords 
> and indicies would have just slowed stuff down. Permissionless to me 
> is a requirement.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Kartikaya Gupta <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     What happens after June 24? Is the whiteboard field going to be
>     removed?
>
>     On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Emma Humphries <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     > tl;dr -- nominate whiteboard tags you want converted to
>     keywords. Do it by
>     > 24 June 2016.
>     >
>     > We have a love-hate relationship with the whiteboard field in
>     bugzilla. On
>     > one hand, we can add team-specific meta data to a bug. On the
>     other hand,
>     > it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to
>     parse,
>     > search, and update.
>     >
>     > But creating keywords is a hassle since you have to request them.
>     >
>     > The long term solution is to turn whiteboard into proper tag
>     system, but
>     > the Bugzilla Team's offering to help with some bulk conversion of
>     > whiteboard tags your teams use into keywords.
>     >
>     > To participate:
>     >
>     > 1. Create a Bug in the bugzilla.mozilla.org::Administration
>     component for each
>     > whiteboard tag you want to convert.
>     >
>     > 2. The bug's description should have the old keyword, the new
>     keyword you
>     > want to replace it with, and the description of this new keyword
>     which will
>     > appear in the online help.
>     >
>     > 3. Make sure your keyword doesn't conflict with existing
>     keywords, so be
>     > prepared to rename it. If your keyword is semantically similar to an
>     > existing keyword or other existing bugzilla field we'll talk you
>     about a
>     > mass change to your bugs.
>     >
>     > 4. Make the parent bug,
>     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1279022,
>     > depend on your new bug.
>     >
>     > 5. CC Emma Humphries on the bug
>     >
>     > We will turn your whiteboard tag into a keyword and remove your
>     old tag
>     > from the whiteboard tags, so make sure your dashboards and other
>     tools that
>     > consume Bugzilla's API are updated to account for this.
>     >
>     > Please submit your whiteboard fields to convert by Friday 24
>     June 2016.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     > Emma Humphries
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