Re: Is the First Amendment Dead?

Wolf K <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mozilla.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2021-01-10 01:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 1/9/21 4:29 PM, Tad wrote:
>> Free speech is literally a critical right we have and it is no 
>> coincidence that it was the first amendment to the US Constitution.
> 
> Go re-read the first amendment again, paying attention to the first five 
> words.
> 
>> Why is it even seen as ok to deplatform anyone that you disagree with 
>> let alone more?
> 
> Because businesses are allowed to state that they don't want to conduct 
> business with individuals as long as it's a clear, documented, and legal 
> reason.  The legal aspect is that there are a single digit (?) number of 
> reasons that are illegal to use.  Businesses are free to refuse to 
> conduct business with people wearing hats.  (Religious garbs excluded.)
> 
>> @mozilla; please go back to basic rights. If you intend to become a 
>> tool to deplatform and silence voices that you disagree with, you will 
>> have become what you most hate. I would at least like to see a post 
>> from someone at Mozilla refuting Michelle's opinion I and I really 
>> don't care how much some folks hate Trump, this is not about him, this 
>> is about our fundamental Constitutional rights that are being trampled.
> 
> What constitutional right is being trampled?  Because Mozilla is 
> definitely not Congress.

The First Amendment means quite simply that governments (at any level) 
cannot suppress political speech by any use (or show) of force. That's 
all. SCOTUS has several times ruled on what "political speech" is. The 
Amendment does not apply to "incitement to riot", a legal concept. Just 
what constitutes "incitement to riot" is not always obvious, however.

The First Amendment definitely does not require any person (that 
includes businesses) to publish or disseminate anything they don't agree 
with.

If anyone wishes to avoid Mozilla in future, I hope they will note the 
irony of objecting to Mozilla "deplatforming" voices Mozilla disagrees with.

Odd that people who most object to "cancel culture" are so often the 
most vehement practitioners.

Best wishes from the Frozen North,

-- 
Wolf K
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