Re: Censoship List

On 13 Jan 2021 at 16:19, Ken Springer wrote:

> On 1/13/21 3:21 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
> > On 1/13/21 2:51 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> >> Technically hate speech is censorship,
> > 
> > How is hate speech censorship?  Or are you describing an effect of hate
> > speech driving others away, thus censoring what they would have said?
> > 
> > If so, I find that considerably different than something like censoring
> > / bleeping cuss words on TV.
> > 
> >> The biggest problem here is who gets to define it.  you may find some
> >> speech as hateful, others may not.
> > 
> > There is usually a commonly accepted average of what is and is not
> > hateful.  There's also how it's used.  Talking about something in the
> > abstract vs using it to describe someone (ad hominem attack) are two
> > considerably different things.  The former may be a slippery slope,
> > while the latter is a step too far.
> 
> But all in all, the demarcation line here is still in the eye of the 
> beholder.

That is true of "hateful" speech, but that is not the same thing as "hate" 
speech, which is what is usually forbidden. "Hate" speech is speech which 
incites others to hate someone, often leading to violence against them.

Jim Fisher