Re: Curated list of localized language names for Firefox UI

"Francesco Lodolo [:flod]" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mozilla.localization
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Right now the only use-case is for the language switcher (stand-alone, 
in a dropdown list).

Next step would be the window to manage installed languages (list item, 
dropdown list), similar to the window used to manage languages for web 
content.

Possible/natural next steps:
* The window to manage accept-languages (list item, dropdown list).
* The context menu when selecting a dictionary (submenu item).

Currently Firefox should be using "Čeština" everywhere. If that works, 
we shouldn't have issues.

Can you give example of contexts where you would use "čeština" vs "česky"?

> Hi Flod.
>
> I am looking at the list of languages and I need to ask. Is the 
> language selector in about:preferences will be the only use for it, or 
> there are other use cases for it already? As the best language name or 
> UI label may differ, because:
> - Czech as a language can be translated as "čeština" (noun - name of 
> the language) or "česky" (how should the software speak to you - pronoun).
> - Strictly from the view of grammar, in Czech all language names are 
> general nouns, thus lowercase, the same for pronouns. Following 
> general rules, both "čeština" and "česky" are not capitalized. However 
> for UI labels etc. we may want to have it capitalized.
>
> --
> Michal
>
> 2018-08-08 10:07 GMT+02:00 Francesco Lodolo [:flod] <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>
>     Hi localizers,
>
>     Follow-up to the email about dictionaries. Another part of
>     improving the experience when switching language is to display
>     localized language names in the UI. Currently, Firefox display
>     languages localized in the language of the build, for example
>     showing "French" in an English build.
>
>     This happens for spell checking in the context menu, when
>     customizing the preferred languages for web content, and for the
>     brand new language switcher.
>
>     Like for dictionaries, we want to create and maintain a curated
>     list of language names to use in Firefox UI, instead of exposing
>     hundreds of strings to all languages for translation. There are a
>     few challenges, and we need your help to understand if we're using
>     the right approach.
>
>     This is the initial curated list
>     https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-languages/
>     <https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-languages/>
>
>     It's manually generated by looking at CLDR data where possible,
>     since it provides both localized names, and a capitalization rule
>     to use such name in the context of "UI list or menu", which is
>     exactly the context in which these will be used.
>
>     Here you can find the full analysis
>     https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-languages/complete.html
>     <https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-languages/complete.html>
>
>     I realized afterwards that the dictionary discussion generated a
>     bit of noise in the mailing list, so let's try a different approach.
>
>     If something looks wrong for your language, please provide
>     feedback or corrections via any of these methods (whichever is
>     easier for you):
>     * By commenting in this bug
>     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481729
>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481729>
>     * By opening a pull request to edit
>     https://github.com/mozilla-l10n/firefox-languages/blob/master/output/languages_curated.json
>     <https://github.com/mozilla-l10n/firefox-languages/blob/master/output/languages_curated.json>
>     * By opening an issue on
>     https://github.com/mozilla-l10n/firefox-languages
>     <https://github.com/mozilla-l10n/firefox-languages>
>     * By reaching out directly to me, either via email, IRC or Telegram
>
>     Francesco
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