Re: Thanks, bug?, suggestion

"HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla" <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:26:10 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mozilla.multizilla
Organization The Mozdev Foundation - news server
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Robert Max Jackson wrote:
>    First, much, much thanks to HJ for his return and Michael for 
> reengaging.  I am one of those who has used Multizilla for some years 
> now and who sticks with Seamonkey largely because of the value I derive 
> from Multizilla.  It is a fantastic piece of software and a great value 
> to all of uw who use it.

Thank you very much Robert. And as long as people want us to work on the 
project... we are here to help.

>    Possible bug (using 1.8.3.5g although it appears in earlier 
> nightlies): If you turn off (unclick) the "Close X Icon on Tab" option 
> in Preference Manager | Tabs | Appearance (as I do), the X does not 
> appear but clicking the icon in a tab does close the tab (a bit 
> unsettling when not expected).

Right. I also ran into this.  Good to be able to restore tabsl problem 
fixed already.

>    Suggestion: In the Permission Manager | Cookies | Cookies window, if 
> it is not too much trouble, it would be nice to have a button or 
> clickbox that would allow us to open (or close) all the cookie sites.  
> Occasionally one wants to scan through all the cookies and it is a bit 
> frustrating to have to click each site name to reveal the cookies.

Nice!  This is exactly what I had in mind so I changed the priority on 
my TODO list, yesterday.  Just take a look at the new context menu with 
the options you need.

>    I have used the Permission Manager for years and am pleased to see 
> work being done on it.  Generally, I find that I have to experiment for 
> some time before I can have a good sense of the impact of such things, 
> so I don't have much feedback at the moment. 

We hope that our future Wiki can be of help for people, so that they can 
help others.

>  However, one minor point.  
> In the Permissions tabs for various elements in the Permission Manager, 
> I think that the name "Set Permission to only Accept content from this 
> site" does not clearly convey what is happening (particularly in 
> comparison to "Set Permission to Permit content from this site").  

Ah yes. The tooltips for the action buttons; which we didn't change yet. 
I might fix them later today ;)

> If I 
> understand the former correctly, it must mean something like "Set 
> Permission to Accept these objects directly from this domain but not 
> indirectly from other domains" .... that is probably too long, but 
> (assuming I understand) points toward a clearer statement.    In the 
> example, I also switched "content" to "objects" for this reason... I 
> think that the term "content" was used so that the hints could be the 
> same for the icons across tabs, but as "content" is easily confused with 
> the ... well, content of the page being viewed, it is easy to be misled 
> by it for all the icons.  Something like "these objects" or simply 
> "objects" might work better, or some other alternative term.    
> Similarly, I switched "site" to "domain", but I suspect that is wrong. 

The new tool tips should be clear and will be initialized on a per 
permission category basis. No more confusing text - if I do it right 
this time ;)

> I guess the question is what is the range of the permission's 
> application and how to convey that--this is particularly for the 
> permission from the specific site only.  If the "site" listed is 
> w.x.y.z/a/b, then does it mean objects that are in w.x.y.z/a/b or would 
> it include y.z/a/b or w.x.y.z/c?  Perhaps this is just too picky about 
> the wording, and perhaps the best way to handle it is through the help 
> documentation.

Let's take a simple example:

multizilla.mozdev.org
www.mozdev.org
somethingelse.mozdev.org

Now. Having a permission for mozdev.org will only work (allow/block/ask) 
for "objects" that come/originate from mozdev.org and not 
multizilla.mozdev.org, somethingelse.mozdev.org or any other site/domain.

I hope this helps,
/HJ