Re: considering how slow and bloated every mozilla app is..

Martijn wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, gperry<[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 30/08/2009 16:15, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
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>>> That said, do you have specific numbers/examples to support your
>>> "bloated" assertion?
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>> FF is currently at 150meg, it'll 300 before long and I'll have to close.
>> Those figures are normal for FF atm.
>>     
doing what? 

not saying this to be defensive.  detailed and specific examples and 
test beyond what you list below is what we need to take actionable steps.
>> TB and Lightning are 160meg. Outlook is running along side it with the same
>> imap accounts and remote calendars and it's just over 35meg (and it's way
>> faster).
>>
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>>  For that matter, do you have specific issues that
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>>> you describe as "slow"? A general "slow" is not an actionable item.
>>>
>>> -Boris
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>> -Page laods are slow in FF, slower than even IE. Chrome and Opera make FF
>> look like a joke.
>>
>>     
which "pages"?
by how much?
>> -javascript performance is horrible
>>     
on which bench mark or page?
>> -When pages are loading, the rest of the interface is unresponsive. In fact
>> is takes so much processor priority as too jam up the entire operating
>> system.
>>     
which pages?   good test cases needed/wanted.
>> -'complex' webpages jam up the browser, leading to slow scrolling and slow
>> inteface. By 'complex' I mean a little bit of javascript or an image table
>> with a few effects, or some text decoration here and there.
>>
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which pages or test cases show this?  can you point at one or put one 
together?
>> -It takes over 3 minutes for thunderbird and lightning to start up, and they
>> are unresponsive during that time. remote calendars reload multiple times,
>> windows will white out the window as it becomes un responsive (multiple
>> times), cpu usage will get stuck at 50%+, it slows downs the rest of the OS,
>> it's only in the last minute or so that it actually starts pulling down
>> email.
>> -after it's loaded, lightning is still painfully slow. every page scroll
>> requires multiple, intensive calendar redraws/refreshs
>> -despite having spent so long starting up, it still doesn't pull down rss
>> feeds at start up, instead leaving it 5-10minutes after startup.
>>
>>
>> The list goes on. And they are all obvious and well known ones. The fact
>> you'd even have to ask means that, if you are a developer, you are a badly
>> out of touch one.
>>
>> I read through these dev forums excepting to see performance being at the
>> very top of the agenda, seeing as how firefox made it's name on being fast
>> and it is now almost as slow as IE (and in some respects slower), but a
>> cursory glance tells me that the devs are far more concerned with a fancy
>> new UI.
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> Do you have any extensions installed? Do you use a different theme
> than the default one?
> What cpu speed do you have?
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>   
what operating system?

-chofmann
> Regards,
> Martijn
>
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