Re: HTTP is just fine
Ben Bucksch <[email protected]>
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Hey Chris, thanks for your balanced stance. That's how I know you :) Chris Hofmann wrote on 26.11.2015 04:04: > taking action to fix the leaky pipes of the internet just enough to make > progress on stampping out surveillance, and future risks of increasing > surveillance. The thing is: There is no technical solution against governments. GSM has crypto. And built-in backdoors. And the crypto is weak. TLS is weak crypto, because it relies on a third party (actually hundreds of third parties) to vet my communication partner. That's inherently insecure, and I think it was deliberate. It plays into the hands of governments. At the time when SSL was invented, the government still had to approve crypto exports (I'm sure you still vividly remember the time, Chris :) ), and made sure they didn't have any problem with surveillance. Since then, the NSA made a little progress on one or two fronts. The NSA hacked Google data centers (see e.g. Google Analytics), hacked Linux, hacked ISPs, telcos and core routers. Dell and Lenovo added root keys to their computers and allowed all traffic to be intercepted. If none of that works, they'll just pass more legislation. Assuming that TLS will lock out the NSA is simply not taking history into account. Ben