Re: Removing Firefox Version Number
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On 8月14日, 下午9时53分, Tyler Downer <[email protected]> wrote: > In Bug 678775 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678775), > Asa has suggested that we remove the version number from the Firefox > About window, stating that the about:support page is all the > information anybody will need. While I understand that the UX team > wants to remove content from the UI and simplify it, there needs to be > a balance between information that benefits someone, and cleaning up > the UI. > > First off, the versions number has always been shown in the Help>About > window for almost every Windows program for the past 16+ years (I > started using Windows with 95, it was probably in use before then). By > removing the version number from the About window (which was already > simplified to showing just the version number, and not build ID in > Firefox 4, eg. Firefox 4.0.1), then we open up a window of confusion > with those people who want to check just what version they are > running. > > Asa says "When a user opens the About window for Firefox, the window > should say something like 'Firefox checked for updates 20 minutes ago, > you are running the latest release.'" But what if the computer is not > always connected to the Internet and the user wants to see if they > have the latest Firefox or if they need to connect to the internet and > download it? Or if they have had issues with their internet > connection? I had an Apache server set up on a computer once that i > did not have connected to the internet so I didn't have to worry about > security, but I did keep an up to date version of Firefox on the > computer because I used it for web development. And using the about: > pages isn't a good solution. 75% of people don't even know the about: > pages exist (based on my triage experience) and users likely are not > going to find them on their own. > > Now, while I understand that the UX team wants to make version numbers > less important (that is something I myself want to see happen) > removing them from the About window is not the answer. Even Chrome, > which has a rapid release cycle and a VERY good updating process, > shows the Version in the about window. What needs to be done is, > remove the version from the download page. Just say "Download Firefox" > and leave it at that. Make Firefox automagically update in the > background (with an easy to find preference to turn that off), and get > rid of the first run pages (which now that we are using rapid release > and each new version has like 1 small feature, don't serve any purpose > anyway). > > The About window needs to continue showing the version number, and it > already checks for updates as soon as it is opened. I see little to no > benefit by removing it (other that "let's remove something else from > the UI". Might as well remove the entire about window) and just > confusion, community angst, and frustration by cutting it. Did you find that: Comparing with Google Chrome, Firefox is based on Mercury Repository of whom the HG version is not recognisable for a human. Let's look at a Google Chrome's version number: "13.0.782.112, SVN-95650" The "13.0" is for the public that the number grows by 1 every 2 month. The "782.112" means the 112th update of the branch 782. SVN-95650 is the SVN version. The customer can easily find whether their chrome is newest by checking "782.112" or "SVN-95650", even if the automatic update system fails. Then, go back to Firefox's "about:" Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:6.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0 This tells nothing but the "big" version that is "always grows by 1 every 2 month". in about:buildconfig, it shows "mozilla-release/rev/218ed8178b1e", OK, what the hell is "218ed8178b1e"? _______________________________________________ dev-usability mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-usability