Re: you want to change user expectations
Steve <[email protected]>
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On Aug 16, 4:57 pm, Ron Hunter <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8/16/2011 6:41 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Hunter wrote: > >> On 8/16/2011 1:07 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote: > >>> Panda wrote: > >>>> Actually I am dissappointed that the UI team aims to change user > >>>> expectations. > > >>> I'm not really sure how to respond to this. > > >>> It's my opinion that a primary role of a UI/UX designer is to make life > >>> easier for users. If a user's expectation is that something is > >>> difficult, and the UX folks want them to have an experience that's not > >>> difficult, you think that's disappointing? > > >>> - A > >> I think the problem is that users don't always perceive the new way of > >> doing things as easier, given that most people instinctively resist > >> change, and don't like to change their habits. > > > That is indeed a problem. It's a lot bigger problem than just Firefox > > > though. That's a part of the human condition. People hated extensions in > > the early days of Firefox development and insisted that all of those > > features be built into the browser. We resisted and today extensions are > > one of the features that every browser wants to copy Firefox on. People > > hated tabbed browsing when we first introduced it in Mozilla -- I can > > remember all the cries of "but the OS is the window manager, not the > > browser". Even self-proclaimed usability experts came down in opposition > > to tabbed browsing and long debates and even flame wars erupted. But we > > stuck to our guns, popularized tabbed browsing, and now every browser > > has followed suit. > > > It's a truism that users resist change and don't always recognize the > > value of change immediately. Some never do. But over time I think that > > most of the changes that browsers have made over the last decade have > > proved themselves positive. If they hadn't people would not have moved > > from IE6 and that's where the Web would be today. > > > - A > > Funny you should mention people moving from IE6. One of the problem MS > addresses often is trying to get people to move from IE6 so they don't > have to support it. Unfortunately, there are some people who just WON'T > move, and likely never will. Maybe MS should just stop updating it, and > let all those users continue using it until their systems are so malware > ridden they collapse. I suspect that some Mozilla users will do exactly > the same thing with FF3.6. I don't think it is fair to dismiss the impact of changing simple little things to make it "easier"... I have repeatedly had to "hunt" for features that were once easily accessible and usable. Asa's arguments are not valid - they are dismissive. He says words like "I value feedback" but the overall read in context is "I value feedback as long as I agree". Not professional.