Re: My usability experience - Asa Dotzler should be fired
mk <[email protected]>
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On Aug 17, 1:28 am, Asa Dotzler <[email protected]> wrote: > Petter Andersson wrote: > > On Aug 16, 8:19 am, Asa Dotzler<[email protected]> wrote: > >> [email protected] wrote: > >>> From all I have read now it appears to me that all of these decisions > >>> that I regard as completely stupid and wrong come from one person: Asa > >>> Dotzler. > >> While I'm flattered that you credit me with everything Mozilla's done > >> from moving to a rapid release cadence to the interface changes in > >> Firefox 4, to our increasingly silent updates, I'm afraid I can't take > >> credit for any of those things. I support them, and I was tangentially > >> involved in them, but those were decisions made by groups of people and > >> not individuals, myself or others. Those were also changes that happened > >> well before I became the Firefox Product Manager. Again, I'm flattered > >> that you think one person, especially me, could do all those things, but > >> it would be unfair for me to take all the credit. > > >> Cheers, > >> - A > > > Why don't you stop being part of the problem? ...UX/UI team > > may think whatever they want, but you, having heard our comments, > > SHOULD have the obligation to tell them: NO, people do not want this, > > so just forget it already. > > If you think that Mozilla should make decisions about how it develops > software based on a tiny self-selecting sample of people who know how to > participate in online discussion forums, you've got a very different > view than I do about how to develop software that is growing from half a > billion to a billion users. > > I'm not dismissing your concerns or your feedback, but the proposal that > we should design a product based on such a small sliver of feedback is > basically a non-starter. > > Even if you represented a majority of users, that's still not how we > design software. We are not a democracy and have never been a democracy. > Mozilla is a meritocracy with an decision-making system that dates back > more than a decade and which places final authority in the hands of > individuals who have earned it through good works on the project. > > Again, that is not to dismiss feedback, yours or anyone else's. I > appreciate almost all of this feedback (I actually read it all) -- with > maybe the exception of the people calling for me to be murdered or > otherwise physically harmed. > > Mozilla listens to all of the feedback that it possibly can. But we > don't design by votes. > > Let me say it one more time so there's no mistake. I read and consider > all feedback. I respond to some of it but not all or I wouldn't have > time to do anything else. I care about feedback and believe that the > huge community of people who take the time to offer feedback is one of > the things that distinguishes Mozilla in the industry. I appreciate > your feedback. I've read it, and I've taken the time to respond to what > of it I have the time to respond to. The same goes for all of the other > feedback here, in the bug report, on slashdot, on other tech sites, with > the press, with my colleagues and my co-workers. I do not dismiss any > but the most gregarious forms of participation (my rule is attack things > not people, when that's violated I walk away.) > > But successful design rarely, if ever, comes from only changing things > when you get a majority to agree. As the old but probably not precisely > true anecdote claims, if Henry Ford would have asked his customers what > they wanted most, they'd have told him "faster horses". > > - A I won't try to tell you what to do. I am just sad that I will have to switch browsers if you don't regain sanity before dropping 3.6 completely. It was a nice browser while it lasted, for that I am grateful. /M