Re: My usability experience - Asa Dotzler should be fired
SmoothPorcupine <[email protected]>
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On Aug 16, 10:39 pm, Asa Dotzler <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you mis-characterize an unfairly malign design philosophy when > you say it's "designing for the dumbest imaginable user". Mozilla has > never done that and never will. We design for the widest possible > audience with the resources we have. That audience isn't dumb and I > suspect that the overwhelming majority of them would object to you > characterizing them as such. I'm afraid I'm going to have to correct you here. I don't expect you'll want to hear it. I honestly expect it's one of those things you reaffirm for yourself to keep yourself sane and moving forward. It's the lie that keeps the UX team (which I personally see as the source of all that is "bad" in Firefox) from being torn apart by the "power users" that made Mozilla a thing. They /are/ dumb. They are not good at computer. They will readily tell you so. All of them. My brother, who logs into Facebook by putting "Facebook login" in the search bar, as do millions; my mother, who is afraid to do anything if data disappears from view, for fear of losing it, who barely understands tabs, and wont grasp the concept windows before she dies; my sister, who knows what a URL is and can recognize one when she sees it, but does not know how to read the content of the URL; and, hell, even my father, who once made a disk driver for the Commodore 64, will all readily admit that modern software is far beyond their comprehension. These are the half-billion new users. Looking at it in this light, I even now /support/ the rapid release nonsense that produced Firefox 4 and up. (That I refuse to install for my mother, lest I ever have to suffer using it, instead opting to let her sit on 3.6. Updating for her would almost be cruel.) I can't ever bring myself to do anything to Chrome but discourage the hell out of it, so in absence of a non-IE browser for the dumb masses, I guess Firefox is my recommendation. I don't even use Firefox as my main. My main is SeaMonkey. This may well be the enterprise solution for Firefox. 3.6 exists in limbo for the precise reason that there's no way rapid release is going to work for anything but someone who install Firefox themself for their personal use only. There is no enterprise solution for Firefox anymore, and, since Firefox is "for the widest possible audience," there really doesn't need to be. Enterprise features may often be at odds with pandering to the largest audience here. Pandering to the largest audience is almost definitely at odds with designing things for "power users." "Firefox should have an enterprise option," could easily prove counterproductive for the developers and users alike. Sure, I'm biased here, because I'd like to get more people using SeaMonkey, which inevitably results in more developers, both of the browser and for add-ons. My bias comes from my decision to use SeaMonkey. My decision to use SeaMonkey comes from my bias against dumbed down interfaces designed for the masses. My aversion to dumbed down interfaces comes from my biased understanding of the technologies involved. (Positive bias on that last one.) If you're a "power user" who can sympathize with my biases, then from a fellow "power user," I personally recommend SeaMonkey. Firefox has "made it." Now let's go "make" SeaMonkey.