Re: Removing Firefox Version Number

On Aug 22, 8:09 am, Asa Dotzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> Deepak Vaid wrote:
> > I think it will the spectacular self-induced implosion of one of the
> > web's premier organizations that will finally wake people up to the
> > fact that democracy and accountability in decision-making at open-
> > source entities cannot just be a cliche.
>
>  From Mozilla's *Governance* page:
>
> "Mozilla is an open source[1] project governed as a meritocracy[2].

You are supposedly the community outreach co-ordinator or something
along those lines, correct? Well in an ideal world your behavior so
far in that role would have merited either firing or demotion or at
the very least a gag order so you might not cause further damage to
Mozilla's reputation. I don't see that happening.

> Our community is structured as a virtual organization where authority is
> distributed to both volunteer and employed community members as they
> show their abilities through contributions to the project."
>
> [1]http://www.opensource.org/
> [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy
>
> Mozilla is not a democracy and it never has been. Mozilla has a
> structure that is based on accountability in decision making, but that
> structure is not a democracy. It is a meritocratic hierarchy. You can
> read more about this structure at the Mozilla *Roles and Leadership*[3]
> page and the *Mozilla Modules and Module Ownership*[4] page. Here's an
> excerpt from that page:
>
> "Module Owners are chartered to make decisions with input from the
> community and in the best interests of the community. Module owners are
> not required to make code changes or additions solely because the
> community wants them to do so."
>
> [3]http://www.mozilla.org/about/roles.html
> [4]http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/module-ownership.html
>
> I appreciate that you want to see accountability in decision making at
> Mozilla. I agree with you on that. So do all of the Mozilla
> contributors. But Mozilla has never been and will probably never be a
> democracy.

"Adapt or die" - Hanna (2011)

> I encourage you to read some of pages linked above to develop
> a better understanding of how Mozilla operates. If you have concerns
> about those specifics, you should certainly bring them up. But calling
> for a wholesale re-design of how this project has operated for 13 years
> without understanding how it is that Mozilla operates probably will not
> work.
>

That's funny in light of the fact that you want to get rid of the very
notion of version numbering, something which has been around for a lot
longer than Mozilla or Firefox.

I just stopped by your blog where your post (http://
weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2011/08/every_six_weeks.html)
makes a mockery of all the concerns that dedicated Mozilla users have
been trying to raise. Good luck with that community "outreach" with an
attitude like that.

> - A