Re: No plans to change the version number scheme

On 8/29/2011 7:32 AM, Desiree wrote:
> "Ron Hunter"<[email protected]>  wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 8/28/2011 7:30 AM, Desiree wrote:
>>> "David Tenser"<[email protected]>   wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 2011-08-26 07:26, Desiree wrote:
>>>>> Plus, it just causes Fx lovers to go to SeaMonkey where this insanity
>>>>> with
>>>>> rapid versions is not happening.
>>>>
>>>> To base your decision on web browser on the version number scheme seems
>>>> pretty crazy to me -- especially if you are a "Firefox lover" :)
>>>
>>> Well, I use the browser and browser version that works with my beloved
>>> extensions. I could care less about anything else about said browser
>>> unless
>>> it did something truly outrageous like forcing updating or forcing
>>> acceptance of third party cookies, etc. Otherwise, I don't care about
>>> having
>>> the "latest" version. I want the version that works with my extensions.
>>> Fx
>>> is its extensions. That is the only reason it exists and is as successful
>>> as
>>> it is today. It is nothing as a browser without all the extensions. It's
>>> Chrome which is the most horrible browser out there except for Safari.
>>> Stripped and watered down browsers are for computer ignorant users. Fx
>>> was
>>> to be first for power users but it has gotten badly off track since many
>>> of
>>> us started out with it way, way back.
>>>
>>>
>> The vast majority of browser users don't even know what an extension is,
>> or what they are for.  Those of us who do know that they are for enjoy
>> them, and like to be able to use them.  I have moved from FF4 to FF7, and
>> have yet to lose an extension.  Same for going from TB3 to TB7 beta, and
>> no extensions lost.  Usually, there are several choices for extensions
>> that to pretty much the same things, so if you find support for one has
>> disappeared, another can often be found to do the job, sometimes much
>> better.  Unfortunately, many users aren't willing to try to find another
>> extension to serve their needs, preferring to just not update.
>>
> Well, there is NOT another MR Tech. There is not another Tree Style tabs
> which I can't install in SeaMonkey.  There is only ONE extension for Fx that
> makes columns of bookmarks and that is an  essential extension to have as Fx
> bookmarks are lacking. Opera's are great though as columns are built into
> the browser (but other things about Opera are not good).  Tab Multiple
> Hander for SeaMonkey is by another author and doesn't work right and is NOT
> a substitute for the real thing Multiple Tab Handler for Fx which has no
> other extension like it and which will not install on SeaMonkey  Ghostery is
> unique and a must on any browser and luckily it installs on SeaMonkey and on
> Opera now also as many of us campaigned hard to get it for Opera.  With
> SeaMonkey the problem generally is not that support has disappeared for an
> extension but that it has not been ported to SeaMonkey. That is where MR
> Tech, if I could install it on SeaMonkey, would come into play as many of
> the extensions not ported yet to SeaMonkey would work if you could just get
> them installed.
>
> Yes, I know most computer users have no idea what an extension is. I have
> always felt that a Fx for Dummies should exist and users who know nothing
> about computers and don't want to learn anything could use it. Those of us
> who have taken the time and effort to educate ourselves about computers and
> software (I am old enough to have not grown up with computers and knew
> nothing when I got my first one) could use the full Fx.
>
>
Yes, perhaps a 'Firefox lite' should be considered.  They could supply 
it to corporations who want to control the updating, and send an update 
once a year, since most such companies have internal security already in 
place.  Use of extensions varies from those with none, to those with 
hundreds.  Most probably use less than 10.  I, periodically, load a few 
interesting ones, then trim those I am not using after a while.  Among 
your 'essential' ones, the only one I have ever used was MR Toolkit, 
which has been pretty much replaced by building most of its features 
into Firefox.  I really don't miss it at all.
Extensions are a 'double-edged sword', in that they are great, but 
sometimes cause a bit of pain.