Re: Firefox 4 dumbing down?

EE wrote:
> David McRitchie wrote:
>> "The Real Bev" ...
>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>> I despise the thing...    [bookmarks toolbar]
>>> So did I.  Then I took off the default crap and put stuff on it that 
>>> *I* wanted and now I like it.  I suppose I could just move that stuff 
>>> to the top of my bookmarks page, but I already have stuff there that I 
>>> want.
>> Well yes, there is absolutely nothing that I want on the supplied toolbar.
>> and therefore on that basis it would  be right to get rid of it.    But 
>> with
>> my stuff on it, that is entirely another matter.   I have almost only 
>> folders
>> on the toolbar, and that makes it very simple to get to the bookmark that
>> I want to get to.  To give you a quick look at what my bookmarks toolbar
>> looks like see.    (about 2/3 height of original, and about half size on 
>> width)
>>    Bookmarks Toolbar Blue/Folders, Red/Bookmarks | userstyles.org
>>    http://userstyles.org/styles/9091
>>
>> I found the  Firefox 4 mock-ups,     Firefox 4.0 theme mockups - Mozilla 
>> Links
>>    http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/07/firefox-4-0-theme-mockups/
>> I'd seen them before,  there is nothing there
>> to say that they got rid of the bookmarks toolbar,  you always had 
>> ability  to take
>> it out of view.   The interesting thing is that they dumped the title 
>> bar,  I like the
>> title bar but would like control over it,  like exactly 1/2 the height 
>> would be nice,
>> so I still have all wording and controls.   Without the title bar my 
>> arrangement, I think,
>> uses about the same space and I have 4 toolbars  .   Can't tell for 
>> sure, but  I think that
>> their mockup is reduced in size.    Examples of mine.  If you move the 
>> cursor over them
>> and see a plus sign click on the image to see it full size.
>>   http://userstyles.org/styles/9349
>>   http://userstyles.org/styles/13115
>> Although the pictures don't show it,  I do remove the  down arrow from the
>> unified  back/forward button similar to the Firefox  4 mockup.
>>  #back-forward-dropmarker{display:none!important} /* use Right-click to 
>> view dropdown */
>>
>>
> They also got rid of the menu bar.  How do you change any settings 
> without a menu bar?  How do you switch themes, or change settings for 
> extensions?  I also depend on the menu bar to access bookmarks.
If you look on the right, there is a 'tools' button.  Under that, I 
suppose, you would find such things as options, and bookmarks, etc. 
Still, it seems to me that IF you want to get rid of the menus, then 
using the 'tiny menu' extension serves the need just fine.  I have it 
installed, but currently don't have it enabled as it renders the menus 
somewhat harder to access.
The thing just looks TOO much like Google Chrome.  Not that I don't like 
Chrome, but I think Firefox SHOULD be distinctive, and have its own look 
and feel, not something borrowed from Chrome, or IE.