Re: Show caller ID

On 11.02.2010 08:34, mike luther wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Interesting
> 
> Andy wrote:
> 
>> is this a program you get from them how do you get it?
> 
> Having tracked call tone and complete POTS telco connection data since
> writing assembly language code for this with my HeathKit H89 in 1976
> before this was ever 'CNID", I'd guess this is a COMCAST utility if you
> are using their telephone service.  If you are using a generic POTS
> telephone line connection, then the necessary data to do this is part of
> the call progress information that is part of the telco service which
> starts on the first ring inbound for normal telephone line calls down
> the 'wire'.
> 
> Then to do this, at least some hardware interface is needed to be able
> to 'see' this call progress data which, when seen at the hardware
> interface to your phone 'line' you use, can be processed.  A computer
> program, or say a utility feature that could be added to your browser
> can then use this data from the hardware interface to do what is being
> asked here is the needed 'feature'.
> 
> The needed information data can, in many cases, be captured by a
> telephone POTS line modem, if it is capable of doing this.  Many are. 
> If your computer motherboard has a built-in modem, or you have one
> plugged into a PCI or USB or even Serial Port socket that will do this,
> it is possible to write the computer code to capture that, initially, at
> time of first ring, data which is part of all 'normal' calls.  Be
> careful about what 'normal' is depending on where you live this world,
> grin.  About seven percent of all USA used telephone company switch rack
> system line switches are 'reserved for internal use'.  That, originally
> to be used for repair and bridging purposes to patch around problems
> which normally result from equipment failures and line failures of
> various 'sorts'.  Which, interestingly, have wound up open to security
> groups even on the outside of phone switches for defense and analysis
> purposes.  As those of us who grew up in the Project Echelon and 'The
> Dictionaries' telephone sniffing era know about.  Color me red, blue,
> pink; whatever...
> 
> This same hardware interface also can be used for actual voice or data
> capture, as a dedicated authentic process for the intended user.  But as
> well for man-in-the-middle data capture.  Whatever, keyboard sniffing,
> password collection, it gets bigger and bigger as we go up the
> technology ladder.
> 
> For very valid purposes, but *NEVER* to record voice, for example, I've
> used the Austin, Texas based Rochelle multi-line Model 2045 Caller ID
> Multi-LIne Adapters and their smaller two line units for many, many
> years for the needed work.  My complete call data interface and .. far
> more than just CNID logs for the connection data tracing, cover over
> 500,000 logged complete inbound and outbound service calls for what is
> absolutely needed here since the early 1980's.  I write my own programs
> for all of this, as noted even back to assembly language in the HeathKit
> H89'as and Z100's.  Though I am not a browser coder, nor is this code
> even available as a discrete utility.
> 
> Be careful about what you ask for as a utility to a browser, though ...
> grin. That tool might open up very intense interest nd criticism of
> Seamonkey or Firefox.  In my humble opinion, of course.
> 
> 

Please take this to email or another venue, this issue is not a support
related issue for the Mozilla products. If any of the Moz guys wants to
become involved then an email communication will/may be available.

Thanks!!



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