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<tr>=20 + <td><p><strong>IMPORTANT !! Our users brought to our attention= , that=20 + this conversion method will not work for those MKV files c= ontaining<br /> + </strong><strong>- video streams with resolution higher th= an DVD=20 + resolution, like HD-TV captures. This is definitely a prob= lem in=20 + DVD Santa, as its resizing filter seems not to be capable = for input=20 + resolutions higher than DVD, being a very trivial task ove= rall<br /> + </strong><strong>- audio streams containing more than 2 ch= annels=20 + (Stereo), like for example 5.1 Dolby Surround audio in HE-= AAC compression=20 + (widely used these days unfortunately, for high quality DV= D backups=20 + in MKV). A simple audio downmixing filter, converting the = 6 channel=20 + 5.1 Dolby Surround audio stream to a Stereo stream, could = help here=20 + nicely, but unfortunately the DVD Santa people are still n= ot talking=20 + to us about improving their tool, to accomodate it for MKV= input=20 + officially</strong></p></td> + </tr> + </table> + </div> + <p>As the matroska container is being widely used for content distri= bution=20 + today, especially for anime, but as there are still no standalone = hardware=20 + player units in the market today which play MKV files, we receive = a lot=20 + of requests on how to be able to convert MKV files into VCD/S-VCD = or DVD=20 + files. This is generally speaking not an easy task, as the MKV con= tainer=20 + is the most powerful multimedia container today, offering support = for a=20 + huge variety of different audio, video and subtitles formats in a = single=20 + MKV file. As VCDs are limited to MPEG1 compression only, and S-VCD= s and=20 + DVDs require MPEG2 compression at least for the video tracks, this= conversion=20 + is only possible with a MPEG encoder.</p> + <p>While there are many MPEG encoders out there, the most well known= probably being TMPG Encoder, most of them do not offer a suitable interf= ace to read in MKV files, but are limited to AVI files. The tool being us= ed here, DVD Santa 4.0, is however offering the possibility to read all k= inds of video and audio files in, by using a powerful DirectShow reader p= lugin. DirectShow is a part of every modern Windows OS, and the underlyin= g platform for video and audio playback in Windows Mediaplayer. In other = words, the creators of DVD Santa have found a way to read all media files= into their encoder, if they will play in Windows Mediaplayer. If you are= being familiar with matroska already, and have read our Guide section a = little bit, you may know already that we are offering a splitter filter f= or Microsoft DirectShow, allowing playback of matroska video and audio fi= les (.mkv/.mka) in Windows Mediaplayer, as well as any other DirectShow b= ased player (see our Windows Playback Gu! ide section to learn which alternative players we are recommending). As = the success of the conversion process is depending on playability of the = MKV files in WMP, let do this first :</p> + +<h3>Step 1 : Installation of the matroska playback pack, to enable MKV/M= KA playback in WMP</h3> +<p>Goto <a href=3D"http://www.cccp-project.net/">http://www.cccp-project= .net/</a> and download and install one of the playback packs. If you are = having any video codec pack installed already, you may try the lite versi= on of the matroska pack first, to avoid conflicts (unlikely, but possible= ). Only if your MKV file does still not play after installation of the li= te pack, or if you dont have any other codec packs installed, go for the = full pack instead. </p> +<p>Now open an Explorer window (not Internet Explorer, just Explorer) an= d search for the file 'mplayer2.exe' on your Windows drive (normally C:\\= ). By double clicking on the .exe file, you will start a very old, stable= and lean version of Windows Mediaplayer, WMP 6.4. Most Pro's prefer to u= se this older version of Microsoft's player, as the more modern versions = are typically overloaded with a lot of features, and are causing conflict= s and other problems in many cases, especially with multimedia software t= hat has not been developed by Microsoft themselves ;) ....</p> +<p>If the player is launched, goto 'file' 'open' and use the 'browse' fu= nction to point the player to your matroska file. It should play fine now= , and we can proceed to the next step. If not, read the matroska playback= Guides <a href=3D"http://www.matroska.org/technical/guides/playback/wind= ows/index.html">here</a> and try to locate what the problem is. </p> +<div align=3D"center"></div> +<div align=3D"center"> + <table width=3D"754" height=3D"59" border=3D"3"> + <tr> + <td width=3D"740"> <div align=3D"center"><strong>Important :</stro= ng> Please note that the files MUST play in Windows Mediaplayer or other = DirectShow based players ! Mediaplayers like Videolan (VLC), Xine or Mpla= yer are <strong>NOT</strong> based on DirectShow, but will support matros= ka files by their own code. However, as DVD Santa is relying on matroska = support in DirectShow, you have to make sure that your matroska files do = play in Windows Mediaplayer. Just the fact that your files do play on you= r computer, using any of the above mentioned players, will not allow DVD = Santa to read in the matroska files for DVD conversion ! </div></td> + </tr> + </table> +</div> + +<h3>Step 2 - Loading your matroska file into DVD Santa 4.0 </h3> +<p>After downloading and installing the free trial version of <a href=3D= "http://www.dvdsanta.com/download/dvdsanta.exe">DVD Santa</a>, you will s= ee an opening dialogue like this :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_1.png" width=3D"644" height=3D= "505"/></p> +<p>But before we get started here, please take a moment to have a look a= t the <a href=3D"http://dvdsanta.com/howtocreatedvd.htm">DVD Santa short = Guide</a> on their <a href=3D"http://www.dvdsanta.com">homepage</a>.<br/> +The right option to select is the one on the very left, named 'Video Fil= es' . After pressing the button, here is what you will see :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_2.png" width=3D"806" height=3D= "576"/></p> +<p>The problem with current version of DVD Santa is still, that it has n= o clue what matroska files actually are, and so it will not recognize the= ir extension, .mkv or .mka . This will become more than obvious to you wh= en you will press the 'Add Media' button and the file opening dialogue wi= ll pop up :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_3.png" width=3D"800" height=3D= "570"/></p> +<p>By standard this dialogue is set to 'All Video and Audio files' and a= s DVD Santa does not recognize your .mkv/.mka files as what they are, aud= io and video files, they are not visible in the file list. To overcome th= is problem, set the 'file type' to 'All files "*.*" ' and voil&= aacute; ...... here are your MKV files :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_4.png" width=3D"800" height=3D= "569"/></p> +<p>After clicking the file you like to convert and pressing 'open' (in t= he screenshot it's the German version of it, 'Öffnen'), here is how = DVD Santa will look alike, with your MKV file ready for conversion : </p> + +<h3>Step 3 - The conversion process : </h3> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_5.png" width=3D"800" height=3D= "569"/></p> +<p>Now depending on where you like, you have to select the right Video S= tandard for your TV and DVD Player, typically NTSC for the US and PAL for= most of the rest of the world. As most MKV files are of high video quali= ty and resolution, i recommend to select 'High Resolution', as shown abov= e. I haven't read the DVD Santa docs completely, so i don't know what wil= l happen if you select 'Medium' or 'Low', but i expect that the result wi= ll then not be a DVD, but maybe a S-VCD (Medium : 352x576 PAL, 352 x 480 = NTSC) or a VCD ( Low : 352 x 288 PAL, 352 x 240 NTSC). Therefore you will= also have to go to 'Advanced Settings' and select a CD instead of a DVD = as the target medium. Please note that some older DVD players can not pla= y S-VCDs, while almost all will play VCDs also. For the aspect ratio sett= ing, 'Wide Screen' is recommended for most cinema movies, while TV captur= es may work better in 'Full Screen' mode. </p> +<p>Then press 'Create DVD' and you will need some patience, because this= is when the conversion process will start. Depending on your CPU power, = the resolution of the picture (higher takes longer) and the length of the= movie, this process can take up to 24 hours !After this rather long wait= ing, you'll see this screen :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_6.png" width=3D"798" height=3D= "569"/></p> +<p>and then, shortly after that, this screen :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_7.png" width=3D"795" height=3D= "569"/></p> +<p>The DVD is now ready to be burned, and you are not so far off from be= ing able to watch your converted MKV file in the living room, with your D= VD and TV. There is only the burning process to be made still :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_8.png" width=3D"796" height=3D= "572"/></p> +<h2 align=3D"center">This is it !!! Well done !!</h2> + +<h2>Some more comments and suggestions :</h2> + +<h3>DVD Santa Trial Version</h3> +<p>The DVD Santa guys will offer a free version of their tool for free. = However, the final DVD will have the very annoying words 'Demo Version' s= hown over the picture. There is probably no other way to get rid of this = than by buying the full version of their software. However, in our opinio= n it is definitely worth the money (29,99- US$). The steps above should b= e done with the free Demo version, to make sure your MKV files can be con= verted into DVDs without problems.</p> + +<h3>matroska and the DVD Santa team - communication problems </h3> +<p>Support for MKV files in DVD Santa is still far from being perfect. T= he most annoying thing is certainly the problem that MKV and MKA files do= n't show in the file opening dialogue, because their extensions are not i= n the list of 'Audio and Video files'. We tried several times now to make= contact with the guys, but in vain. Personally i beleive our emails get = stuck at some helper person who believes opensource is about bad hackers = and world domination, but hopefully we will soon be able to talk to the r= ight people. </p> +<p>There is still a lot of room for improvement, like support for embedd= ed subtitles in MKV files and the possibility to select the right audio t= rack, if the MKV file has more than one. Hopefully the matroska users wil= l bring them some additonal bussiness, helping them to change their mind = here, and making them work together with us for better matroska file supp= ort in their nice app. </p> + +<h3>More than one audio track in the MKV file </h3> +<p>matroska is a very advanced container, and as such will offer support= for an unlimited number of video, audio and subtitle tracks in a single = file. In this case, if your preferred audio track is not the first and as= long as there is no way to select the right audio track from the DVD San= ta file opening dialogue, we have to use a little trick to make sure the = final DVD will have the language we want it to have :</p> +<p>Goto <a href=3D"http://mkvmerge.matroska.org/">http://mkvmerge.matros= ka.org</a> and download and install the win32 Version of <a href=3D"http:= //mkvtoolnix.matroska.org/">MKVtoolnix</a>. Run the .exe file and the MKV= toolnix package will be installed on your computer. It will contain mkvme= rge.exe, the most used MKV creation tool, and its GUI for Windows users, = called mmg.exe. When you start the GUI, here is what you see :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"mmg_1.png" width=3D"601" height=3D"333"/= ></p> +<p>mkvmerge has analyzed the MKV file, and will show you all the audio, = video and subtitles tracks in it. Video tracks start with 'V_xxxx' , audi= o tracks (you guessed it) start with 'A_xxxx' and subtitles (what a surpr= ise) with 'S_xxxx' . We will now untick all the unwanted audio and subtit= les tracks, so for this example here we assume the audio we want is the t= rack nr. 3 :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"mmg_2.png" width=3D"600" height=3D"358"/= ></p> +<p>Now, you have to specify a new name for the file, and press 'Start Mu= xing' :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"mmg_3.png" width=3D"599" height=3D"214"/= ></p> +<p>The result of the process, which is normally not taking longer than 2= minutes, will be a new MKV file, but with only the one audio track you w= ant to hear in your DVD, after conversion in DVD Santa. Needless to say, = this process has to be done BEFORE you start the conversion in DVD Santa.= After you have removed the unwanted tracks, just load the new file into = DVD Santa, just like described above.</p> + +<h3>Subtitles in DVD Santa</h3> +<p>Many matroska files do contain subtitle tracks, or also called 'soft = subs'. Unlike many AVI files floating around, when the subtitles were enc= oded with the main video and therefore became a fixed part of the movie, = soft subs can be switched on or off, depending on if you like them or not= , and you can also add subtitles for many different languages and then se= lect the correct one for you on playback.</p> +<p>DVD Santa will allow you to burn your subs into the DVD, but only if = those are available in SRT or SUB format (so-called text subtitles). matr= oska has support for SRT, but not for SUB. However, chances are high that= the subs you will find in your MKV file are in SRT format. If they are i= n SSA/ASS or vobsub format, google for conversion tool into SRT format.</= p> +<p>But first, we have to extract the subtitles track from the MKV file, = so that you can load it into DVD Santa. The tool to do that is mkvextract= .exe, and it is coming with the above mentioned MKVtoolnix package. As it= is normally a CLI (command line) tool and we are lazy bastards and used = to work with GUIs, we get the nice <a href=3D"http://corecodec.org/projec= ts/mkvextractgui/">MKVextract GUI</a> from our Spanish support team. Down= load the latest version <a href=3D"http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=3D5= 5&release_id=3D141#r141">here</a> , extract the CONTENT of the ZIP file i= nto the MKVtoolnix folder (mkvectractgui.exe will need a lot of apps and = libraries from the mkvtoolnix folder, so it HAS to be in the same folder)= and start the .exe file. The GUI will show : </p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"mmg_4.png" width=3D"662" height=3D"492"/= ></p> +<p>Select the subtitles track you want to convert with your DVD, specify= a name and the right output folder (typically the 'Source Folder' ) and = press 'Extract'. The following process is very quick, typically less than= 1 minute. The result will be a subtitles file with the extension .SRT (b= est case), .SSA or you will have two files even, a .SUB and a .IDX file. = The latter two are DVD style picture type subtitles called 'vobsub' . Unf= ortunately DVD Santa can't handle them (DVD Maestro can, but cant read MK= V files), so you have to convert them into text based SRT subtitles with = tools like <a href=3D"http://www.divx-digest.com/software/vobsub.html">vo= bsub</a> . <strong>Make sure that when you install vobsub, DO NOT install= the DVobSub subtitle filter with it !! </strong>Deinstall the tick box i= n the install configuration window in any case, as this filter is old and= will conflict with newer versions of vsfilter (its successor). For SSA f= iles, i dont know which tool could be used! to convert them to SRT, try <a href=3D"http://www.videohelp.com/tools?t= ool=3DSub_Station_Alpha">Sub Station Alpha</a> or <a href=3D"http://corec= odec.org/projects/u96">U96</a>. </p> +<p>Once you have a SRT file, you have to load it right after Step 2 abov= e, before the actual conversion will start :</p> +<p align=3D"center"><img src=3D"DVD_Santa_9.png" width=3D"798" height=3D= "570"/></p> +<p>Then, after you can see the subtitles track in the list, proceed with= the conversion (Step 3) just like above. If all is right, the subtitles = should become visible with the final VCD/S-VCD/DVD.</p> + +<h3>Do us a favour</h3> +<p>This method described above works fine for a big number of files. How= ever, if it doesnt work for you, help us to improve on it. To do so, do t= he following :</p> +<ul> + <li>run matroskadiag.exe , the matroska file diagnostics program, on y= our MKV file</li> + <li>send the log file of the diagnosis run via email to matroska-users= @lists.matroska.org and describe your problem with DVD Santa</li> +</ul> +<p>If you like DVD Santa and use it a lot for converting your MKV files,= <strong>please tell it to the DVD Santa people ! </strong>The email is</= p> +<p><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><strong>[email protected]= m</strong></a></p> +<p>please use the following text :</p> + +<div align=3D"center"> + <table width=3D"737" height=3D"125" border=3D"3"> + <tr> + <td><p>Subject : <strong>Missing matroska support in DVD Santa</st= rong></p> + <p>Body : Hi, i was using your tool to convert my collection of = matroska (MKV) files into DVDs, so i could watch them on my DVD player. T= his worked fine for me a number of times, however i suggest that you shou= ld further improve support for matroska files in your great program :</p> + <ul> + <li>add .mkv and .mka extensions to the list of Audio and = Video=20 + files</li> + <li>allow selection of the preferred audio track in the MK= V file,=20 + from your file open window</li> + <li>add support for subtitle track embedded in the MKV fil= e</li> + <li>allow for video streams with resolution higher than DV= D (like=20 + HD-TV captures)</li> + <li>allow for audio streams with more than 2 channels, add= ing a=20 + downmixing filter</li> + </ul> + <p>Thanks <user> </p></td> + </tr> + </table> +</div> + +</div> +<!--#include virtual=3D"/include/page-tail.html" --> + +</div> +</body> +</html> Added: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVDSanta/mmg_1.pn= g =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVD= Santa/mmg_1.png ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Added: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVDSanta/mmg_2.pn= g =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVD= Santa/mmg_2.png ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Added: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVDSanta/mmg_3.pn= g =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVD= Santa/mmg_3.png ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream Added: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVDSanta/mmg_4.pn= g =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D (Binary files differ) Property changes on: trunk/www.matroska.org/data/technical/guides/dvd/DVD= Santa/mmg_4.png ___________________________________________________________________ Name: svn:mime-type + application/octet-stream