Re: Fwd: [Cellar] Depth offsets for subtitles in case of 3D MVC tracks in MKV files
madshi via Matroska-devel <[email protected]> Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:54:55 +0100
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> Ah, interresting. We could still use a z-order value, because > that's what 3D is about. The problem is that a 3D frame usually has different depths in different sections of the image. Each subtitle track has its own position where it's drawn, and its own x offset (-> depth) assigned to it, and depending on which section of the video frame the subtitles are drawn over, the depth could be widely different for different subtitle tracks (at least theoretically). Practically that means we don't really have one depth information per frame (or block), which works for all subtitles and OSD/GUI. Instead we have a different depth information for each separate subtitle track per video frame, and one (or multiple or none) more depth information for OSD/GUI depth per frame. > So I think we should go with the CodecState approach. Meaning > we need a specific codec ID for such Blu-Ray subtitles. We > should not write the CodecState if the values are the same as > the time it was previously written. CodecState is per Cluster, though, not per Track, so I'm not sure which exact information you'd want to store there? (Unless I'm misunderstanding the MKV cluster/track structure.) I think we need to store an array index per subtitle track in order to properly cover the depth information contained for subtitles in 3D Blu-Ray. I suppose if you wanted to make this totally codec independent, one other option would be to store the depth (or x offset) directly as a property of the subtitle track, but if we do that, then depth could only change once for each subtitle image, I think, which is too limited to properly capture what 3D Blu-Ray can do, because with 3D Blu-Ray, subtitles can have a different depth per subtitle track *and* per video frame. Best regards, madshi. _______________________________________________ Matroska-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel Read Matroska-Devel on GMane: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.devel