Re: iAudio X5 says it supports "Ogg" not "Vorbis"

Hi Monty,

> With a few notable exceptions, the community
> submissions were deeply amateurish.

It's ironic that you're down on amateurs, given that many 
contributions to Xiph.org projects are unpaid. Of course I support 
your right to choose the branding that you think is the best. 

> Attached is a both the initial branding package from last year as
> well as some of the more refined/finished logos from the most
> recent deliverable.

I'm afraid that you've proved the point that you don't understand 
hardware branding. These logos are fine for a website but of no use 
to a hardware OEM - too complicated, too many colours, and you can't 
recognise them at a small size. Plus there's the issue that you've 
assumed the target audience can read a Latin script. If you think of 
something like the Dolby logo, it's independent of any character set.

> I'm afraid we'll both ignore you unless you have something
> constructive to offer as well.

I have been trying to be constructive, but it's not easy when your 
contribution is dismissed out of hand. If you're determined to stick 
with the fish for Vorbis, then I suggest making it a black outline in 
SVG format and see how it looks when printed 4mm in width on a piece 
of aluminium. 

Cheers!

Daniel