Re: NHW Project - some update
Raphael Canut <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Jul 2018 23:08:43 +0200
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Hello Dave, Thank you very much again to believe in the NHW Project and spend some of your precious time in the help of the project! This is much appreciated! I know it will be very very difficult, and even a Theora forum member answered me few months ago that it is totally impossible that a company uses my codec in their mobile phones, and I tend to share that opinion. For now, and it's great, their is a study to replace MotionJPEG with the NHW Project for low power processors -that don't have enough power for MotionJPEG-. But again Dave, if you would have any advice, if you could indicate me a person/company to contact but I know it's extremely difficult, it would be so much exceptional! Many thanks again for your consideration Sir! Best regards, Raphael 2018-07-10 22:25 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <[email protected]>: > You're welcome! > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 4:50 AM Raphael Canut <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Dave, >> >> Thank you very much for your help! >> >> Cheers, >> Raphael >> >> 2018-07-10 9:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <[email protected]>: >> >>> Let me do some looking. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 4:55 PM Raphael Canut <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Dave! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for your answer! >>>> >>>> You're right.I have thought that the new next-generation codecs like >>>> JVET (MPEG) VVC, AOM AV1, XVC will be too computational-intensive for >>>> mobile phones.So the de facto codecs for mobiles devices are H.264 and >>>> HEVC, I thought that my codec that is royalty-free and a lot faster could >>>> move the lines, but you're right Apple is "attached" to MPEG and Google and >>>> the others are "attached" to AOM. >>>> >>>> > Look to Asia >>>> >>>> I am always very attracted by new opportunities for my NHW Project! But >>>> don't you think there will be a problem of compatibility? For example a >>>> brand wants to use the NHW Project in its new mobile phone, but what will >>>> happen if the NHW Project is not supported by web browsers? >>>> >>>> Anyway, I am very interested to look to Asia, would you have some >>>> advice? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Raphael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2018-07-09 23:33 GMT+02:00 Dave Johnson Games <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> I think Apple is somehow "attached" to the MPEG group. They control >>>>> the "pools" too. Your codec sounds great. Google could -- if they wanted to >>>>> -- use it but they have Web^M and webP. Look to Asia. Asus has just >>>>> launched a new phone. ?? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 3:14 PM Raphael Canut <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have advanced on the NHW Project this past month, but I have >>>>>> definitely validated its characteristics and this new version. >>>>>> >>>>>> The NHW Codec preserves or enhances image neatness and sharpness, >>>>>> which translates that on good quality images the NHW Codec is globally >>>>>> better than HEVC, and on degraded (with blur, artifacts) images it is worse >>>>>> than HEVC because it lacks of precision. I have made tests on 100 images >>>>>> from the Internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> The NHW Project still lacks very high compression, and I think now I >>>>>> will inspire from HEVC, that is to say, I would like to strongly remove >>>>>> details and preserve the contours, edges. It is not that easy to code, and >>>>>> again any help would be very very welcome! Again if you can provide any >>>>>> help to the NHW Project, do not hesitate to show up, would be so much >>>>>> appreciated!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> The NHW codec has a high speed, which makes it a good candidate for >>>>>> mobile, embedded devices.There are currently some exploration for a >>>>>> MotionJPEG replacement on low power processor (dual-core 240MHz Xtensa LX6) >>>>>> where MotionJPEG appears to be too heavyweight. >>>>>> >>>>>> With the recent updates, I think the NHW Project is still patent-free >>>>>> and royalty-free. And just the fact that it is royalty-free, should be >>>>>> worth the try. >>>>>> >>>>>> So with this new version, I hope the NHW Project could attract a >>>>>> company that would like to sponsorize the project (to adapt the codec to >>>>>> any size of image for example). >>>>>> >>>>>> Very quickly to finish, I have seen that on the Theora mailing list >>>>>> there are employees from big companies.This can be indiscreet and very >>>>>> impolite, but for example there are 2 employees from Apple who are on the >>>>>> Theora channel mailing list... Does Apple can be interested in such a codec >>>>>> as the NHW Project? If not, what does it lack to be of interest? Would you >>>>>> have some advice? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks again! >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Raphael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> theora mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ theora mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/theora