Re: "Click" and "Change" Notifications for Array Elements in Data Structures

I might be mistaken, but I understand that data structures were originally
designed to facilitate the creation of graphical scores. The way the mouse
interacts with array elements seems like a great foundation for
incorporating symbols within a "frame". For example, a user could create a
staff with clickable and draggable notes, using Pure Data's native tools
(and a library containing the coordinates to create the symbols)...

Il giorno dom 11 ago 2024 alle ore 03:21 Alexandre Torres Porres <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> hmmm, a setable receive symbols for arrays could be interesting. I see the
> message it gets is just a 'bang' whenever there is a click, but being able
> to retrieve the index and value of the changed element in a receive symbol
> seems like a nice thing to have. Though I have lived without this just fine
> and I'm not really sure about the use cases.
>
> I had kind of a use case for this, but I realized that what I wanted was a
> multislider GUI, so I made one that just works nicely as one. Using arrays
> as a hack for multislider is a problem for me because I didn't want just
> the 'jump on click' behaviour.
>
> So I'm not sure about just requesting this functionality on its own, now
> that I have my 'true' multislider. I'd go for it if we could also expand
> arrays and also add a 'steady on click' mode, and also a 'bar visualization
> mode'... but then maybe that's adding too many things just so arrays work
> like something else.
>
> Nonetheless, maybe just adding this functionality on its own could indeed
> be a good thing.
>
> One way to always 'poll' the values, of course, is with [tabread~], and it
> works at signal rate
>
> cheers
>
>
> Em sáb., 10 de ago. de 2024 às 03:20, Bukvic, Ivica <[email protected]> escreveu:
>
>> Perhaps vanilla could port the pd-l2ork's <arrayname>_changed send that
>> is attached to each array and is used in conjunction with the global
>> presetting mechamism (preset_hub and preser_node objects). IIRC, canvas
>> hosting the array should also trigger the "clicked" event.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ico
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>> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
>> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>
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>> *From:* Pier Bar <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2024 5:50:43 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [PD] "Click" and "Change" Notifications for Array Elements in
>> Data Structures
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've noticed that while structures in Pure Data usually can send "click"
>> and "change" notifications when modified, this behavior doesn't seem to
>> apply to the elements of an array within these structures (apart from
>> polling solutions like using [metro]).
>>
>> How difficult would it be to change this behavior in the future, or would
>> Pure Data's architecture not easily allow for it?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierpaolo Barbiero
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