Re: "Click" and "Change" Notifications for Array Elements in Data Structures

Thank you for opening the request, I'm glad to see that this issue
interests others as well.

Pierpaolo

Il giorno mer 14 ago 2024 alle ore 17:49 Alexandre Torres Porres <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

> opened a request https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2395
>
> Em qua., 14 de ago. de 2024 às 09:58, Pier Bar <[email protected]>
> escreveu:
>
>> I might be mistaken, but I understand that data structures were
>> originally designed to facilitate the creation of graphical scores. The way
>> the mouse interacts with array elements seems like a great foundation for
>> incorporating symbols within a "frame". For example, a user could create a
>> staff with clickable and draggable notes, using Pure Data's native tools
>> (and a library containing the coordinates to create the symbols)...
>>
>> Il giorno dom 11 ago 2024 alle ore 03:21 Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>>> hmmm, a setable receive symbols for arrays could be interesting. I see
>>> the message it gets is just a 'bang' whenever there is a click, but being
>>> able to retrieve the index and value of the changed element in a receive
>>> symbol seems like a nice thing to have. Though I have lived without this
>>> just fine and I'm not really sure about the use cases.
>>>
>>> I had kind of a use case for this, but I realized that what I wanted was
>>> a multislider GUI, so I made one that just works nicely as one. Using
>>> arrays as a hack for multislider is a problem for me because I didn't want
>>> just the 'jump on click' behaviour.
>>>
>>> So I'm not sure about just requesting this functionality on its own, now
>>> that I have my 'true' multislider. I'd go for it if we could also expand
>>> arrays and also add a 'steady on click' mode, and also a 'bar visualization
>>> mode'... but then maybe that's adding too many things just so arrays work
>>> like something else.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, maybe just adding this functionality on its own could
>>> indeed be a good thing.
>>>
>>> One way to always 'poll' the values, of course, is with [tabread~], and
>>> it works at signal rate
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Em sáb., 10 de ago. de 2024 às 03:20, Bukvic, Ivica <[email protected]>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps vanilla could port the pd-l2ork's <arrayname>_changed send that
>>>> is attached to each array and is used in conjunction with the global
>>>> presetting mechamism (preset_hub and preser_node objects). IIRC, canvas
>>>> hosting the array should also trigger the "clicked" event.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Ico
>>>> --
>>>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
>>>> Director, Creativity + Innovation
>>>> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
>>>> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>>>>
>>>> Virginia Tech
>>>> Creative Technologies in Music
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>>>>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Pier Bar <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2024 5:50:43 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* [PD] "Click" and "Change" Notifications for Array Elements
>>>> in Data Structures
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that while structures in Pure Data usually can send
>>>> "click" and "change" notifications when modified, this behavior doesn't
>>>> seem to apply to the elements of an array within these structures (apart
>>>> from polling solutions like using [metro]).
>>>>
>>>> How difficult would it be to change this behavior in the future, or
>>>> would Pure Data's architecture not easily allow for it?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Pierpaolo Barbiero
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