Re: deken and Pd search path

Le 12/09/2024 à 18:07, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
> On 9/12/24 15:17, cyrille henry wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> With default path, or using the -noprefs starting option, Pd is not looking for externals where deken install them.
>> I.E :
>> if I install pmppd with deken, start pd -noprefs, Pd can't find the pmpd object, even with "declare -stdpath pmpd -path pmpd" in the patch
>>
>> Is this the expected behaviours?
>> I think the deken path should be add to the standard search path.
>> (standard search path are only : patch location, ~/.local/lib/pd/extra/, ~/pd-externals/, /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/, /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/)
> 
> it's more complicated.
I was expecting that!

> Pd doesn't know about deken (the latter being a pure Pd-GUI thing).
> deken tries to use the default search path as the default installation path.
That is what I expected, but it look like it fail on my computer, since deken install dir is :
~/Documents/Pd/externals
and pd default search path are :
~/
~/.local/lib/pd/extra/
~/pd-externals/
/usr/local/lib/pd-externals/
/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/

why not use ~/pd-externals/ as deken default installation dir? or add ~/Documents/Pd/externals as pd default search path?
This will make thing work also when using the -noprefs flag.

(I'm sorry I miss all discussion about deken)

> 
> but once you started Pd and accepted the ~/Documents/Pd path as the default, deken will remember that selection.
> you can also set whatever path you want for deken to install externals to, but deken will use it's own (pd-gui) preferences, and not tell the Pd-core about that.
ok

> 
> this all works nicely, as long as you don't try to force some specific settings, e.g. via (`-noprefs`).
sure!

> 
> if you know how to use `-noprefs`, we assume you can also add "-path /path/to/where/i/told/deken/to/put/stuff" :-)

My aim is to test a patch to be sure that it will work on someone else computer. So I use the -noprefs on my computer to remove all stuff I have in my search path and simulate a fresh pd installation. (That way, I'm sure I did not forget a dependency).
The solution is : to change default deken install dir to one of pd search path, or to start pd with -noprefs -path /where/deken/coose/to/install/stuff
I was not expecting that, but that's not a problem.

But I also wanted to use -noprefs on the other computer, to simulate a fresh pd installation, just to be sure that the patch will work the same way on all computer.
I will just avoid doing that, and hope for the best.


cheers
Cyrille

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