Re: mp3 playback from URL

the men with the muck rakes are often indispensable to the well-being of 
society; but only if they know when to stop raking the muck.


ydegoyon @gmail.com wrote:
> you really show the level of discussions here ...
>
> lower than the gutter, where i puke..
>
> i'm aware i wrote off-list but now i put it back on the list to show 
> your real face.
>
> i'm mainly laughing of your childish remarks.
>
>
> Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> Oh boy, are you aware you're writing me off list? Cause you don't 
>> seem to realize how emails work and you have problems with it :) 
>> right dumbass? Well, I bet you didn't mean to, you silly person...
>>
>> I was filtering the emails sent to the pd-list so I wouldn't have to 
>> deal with you for a while. And I did it correctly and I remembered I 
>> did it. Unlike you, you fucking pathetic moron, hahahah, that was so 
>> funny by the way... accusing IOhannes to filter your messages and 
>> then it turns out it was your fucking filter, ahahahahaha. Well, you 
>> are very funny, but funny for being ridiculous.
>>
>> But anyway, here you are, writing to me off list and I'm getting 
>> it... and I had to check the latest scene the old grumpy man that 
>> acts like a crying baby or a bitchy teenager was doing now at the list.
>>
>> You're funny, but you're also sad, again me with mixed feelings. I'm 
>> still actually sorry for you, and it's even sadder how you don't 
>> realize you have clear issues. It's sad cause you're hopeless... what 
>> a sad existence... but also fuck you, right? As you're just an 
>> annoying sick asshole. And I knew you were going to keep being the 
>> asshole you've always been, so I'm disengaging from the list 
>> interaction as promised, and thanks for the opportunity to tell you 
>> to fuck off in private then <3 I have to say it does feel pretty good 
>> to tell you to fuck off, you fucking moron <3
>>
>> Let's see if someone else will handle you at the list, or if they'll 
>> just ignore the troll... maybe they'll take "unauthorized" out of 
>> deken to make you happy and get rid of you, but if you really care 
>> about people not using unauthorized, I tried telling you this was 
>> useless. You're so fucking retarded that you don't seem to get it... 
>> for the last time, you should note that people will still be using 
>> unauthorized in Pd-L2ork/Purr Data, and you should bug them for that.
>>
>> At one point I thought about uploading a new version of unauthorized 
>> to deken just to piss you off, but I've been looking at it, and it's 
>> such a crappy library, some objects don't even work, others are just 
>> bad. I guess people were including any crap back in the extended 
>> days, favoring quantity over quality. It's a good thing Extended died 
>> in the end, as we can get rid of your stupid code.
>>
>> Enough attention for you, you must be sad and lonely, desperate for 
>> attention, but you're now also filtered here... bye bye, fuck you, 
>> fuck you very very much, please don't stay in touch...
>>
>> talk to the hand now...
>>
>>
>> Em ter., 26 de nov. de 2024 às 00:06, ydegoyon @gmail.com 
>> <http://gmail.com> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>
>>     you know, you are not funny but really
>>
>>     heavy
>>     heavy
>>     heavy
>>     heavy
>>
>>
>>     ydegoyon @gmail.com <http://gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     yeh, get a cure, i'm doing well
>>>
>>>     autorship was about *pd OpenCV* if you can't read anything clearly,
>>>     and it's mainly from *Luis Gomez i Bigorda* and me if you can't
>>>     even remember details.
>>>
>>>     at the same time, yes, removing unauthorized from *Deken *
>>>     would please me.
>>>
>>>     i write in bold so you can remember.
>>>
>>>     and we have absolutely whatsover *ANY personal relationship*,
>>>     so drop your comments about my attitude.
>>>
>>>     yeh, friends told me about the mood in your convention,
>>>     and i don't regret i wasn't there,
>>>     i don't go in a colony for boyscouts.
>>>
>>>     all your old rancors really show that you are sick, not more.
>>>
>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>     Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>     Em dom., 24 de nov. de 2024 às 21:18, ydegoyon @gmail.com
>>>>     <http://gmail.com> <[email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu:*
>>>>     > they can fork it and even thank the author,
>>>>     > but never pretend they are the author, dumb ill man.*
>>>>
>>>>     Unauthorized - the piece of software I was talking about -
>>>>     clearly has you as the author. I don't know and I'm not sure
>>>>     others know what you're talking about with PiDip being stolen
>>>>     by an "unknown youngster", and I think you are an intelligent
>>>>     man as to realize we're not shipping PiDip anywhere and that
>>>>     you are not talking to whoever you are accusing of stealing
>>>>     your work without credit. And ohboy, you're really trying hard
>>>>     to offend me in a petty way :) I'm sorry I got that way into
>>>>     your head.
>>>>
>>>>     I didn't wanna brag about it, but I also have a 3rd divergent
>>>>     trait, which is being highly gifted. My IQ scored way above
>>>>     average and it masks my issues, as when I'm challenged by them,
>>>>     the score drops to "average". Since you're so interested in my
>>>>     conditions, check this diagram
>>>>     https://tendingpaths.wordpress.com/2022/12/12/updated-autism-adhd-giftedness-venn-diagram/
>>>>     (actually I'd like to raise awareness, this is really helping me).
>>>>
>>>>     *> unauthorized ( the real one, kept in GISS.tv git ) now have
>>>>     the same license as PiDiP*
>>>>
>>>>     I said I cloned from your git <git clone
>>>>     http://giss.tv/~git/git.cgi/unauthorized.git>. The license in
>>>>     there, in all the objects I checked, was still 'GPL'. If you
>>>>     changed it, you don't seem to have updated it or made new
>>>>     versions based on your new license in the "real repository,
>>>>     kept in GISS.tv".
>>>>
>>>>     I'm actually curious about the license discussion as I don't
>>>>     know much about it. As I see it, once you release a version
>>>>     with the GPL license, people can fork it and redistribute it
>>>>     forever. I bet the Pd people know a lot about licensing and
>>>>     that is why 'unauthorized' was kept in Extended.
>>>>
>>>>     You somehow seem to want us to "remove" unauthorized from
>>>>     somewhere. Well, where? We're not shipping it. We're not
>>>>     maintaining it. I am actually trying to help you understand the
>>>>     situation. We're all on the same page that "unauthorized"
>>>>     should not be used. So I hope you realize how pointless this
>>>>     discussion is. You don't seem to get things even being so smart
>>>>     and after multiple explanations. If it's still confusing, I'll
>>>>     just give up.
>>>>
>>>>     I also added the information that, currently, the ones who are
>>>>     still shipping unauthorized are Pd-L2ork and Purr Data. You can
>>>>     try and reach and have a fight with them, but I don't think you
>>>>     can get it out of there in the same way you couldn't get it out
>>>>     of Extended.
>>>>
>>>>     The extended libraries were once uploaded to be installed in
>>>>     Vanilla via our deken plugin. It was important to have these
>>>>     libraries around in a transition phase period when Extended
>>>>     quite unfortunately ceased and people were adapting. There are
>>>>     new libraries being maintained and with alternatives.
>>>>     Unauthorized is dead, abandoned, no one is maintaining it or
>>>>     making new uploads. There's an old version there which doesn't
>>>>     even run on newer machines and it has the old license and
>>>>     explains how it was forked and even points to your original
>>>>     repository. Isn't that good enough? Do you want us to upload a
>>>>     new version with the new license so people can install
>>>>     from deken? Can we leave it at that? Do you want it out of
>>>>     deken? Under what reasoning?
>>>>
>>>>     It's part of my personal mission to offer alternatives from old
>>>>     and abandoned libraries, from Extended and elsewhere. I already
>>>>     have alternatives for a couple of objects I used from
>>>>     unauthorized, like [grid] (I got [slider2d] and [pad] in ELSE
>>>>     for that). Yeah, I lied I "never used it", but I don't consider
>>>>     that using a couple of objects when I was using Extended means
>>>>     I actually knew your library.
>>>>
>>>>     For the record, I will reinforce that now that I have
>>>>     unauthorized cloned, I will look again on what's in there for
>>>>     real, see if something is worth having an alternative to. And
>>>>     regarding the topic of the thread, I'll investigate more about
>>>>     what we have in Pd regarding streaming and will look into
>>>>     adding those things into ELSE (and in PlugData by extension).
>>>>
>>>>     *> i might be ill too, but would not expose this on a mailing
>>>>     list.*
>>>>
>>>>     You're exposing yourself a lot though, seriously. Hey, time for
>>>>     a peace offering here. I'll be bluntly honest, but I don't
>>>>     wanna get into this petty silly exchange of offenses. You do
>>>>     seem to have mental issues in the way you expose yourself and
>>>>     I'm actually changing the way I feel about you.
>>>>
>>>>     It's ok for you to expose whatever you deal with, but I agree
>>>>     you shouldn't expose them to justify your behaviour as people
>>>>     don't have to take crap because you're not ok. And it's not
>>>>     like you want to justify anything and be sorry for whatever
>>>>     you're doing, you're actually doubling down. My case differs
>>>>     and, for starters, it's not an "illness", they're divergent
>>>>     traits, and I'm not using anything as an excuse to justify any
>>>>     rude/offensive behaviour. On the contrary, I was defending
>>>>     myself from silly attacks and insults, implying I'm stupid or
>>>>     something ;) Whatever you have or don't have technically, an
>>>>     illness or not, what I see is a confused and grumpy dude.
>>>>     Regardless of the case, I'm actually just getting sorry for you.
>>>>
>>>>     My condition makes it really hard for me to not be bluntly
>>>>     honest. It can haunt me for a lifetime if I hold things. For
>>>>     instance, you were a real prick at PdCon09. It was a nightmare
>>>>     dealing with you all along. I regret I invited you, insisted on
>>>>     your coming, paid for your stuff, made sure you had all you
>>>>     needed, because at literally the last minute you simply missed
>>>>     the flight we had paid for you. I never told you how that made
>>>>     me feel (I was also pretty busy at the event) and here I still
>>>>     am, finding the need to tell it to your face how that screwed
>>>>     us, how I wish I had invited somebody else instead, and how you
>>>>     were just a dick about it. I don't need to expose the details,
>>>>     people can just imagine how uncool it was. It's nice to let it
>>>>     out, offer you a happy song and tell you how it felt, but I'm
>>>>     now having mixed feelings and it's true I'm also just sorry to
>>>>     realize you're still struggling with whatever haunts you after
>>>>     so many years.
>>>>
>>>>     Ok, it is out, let bygones be bygones. I'm done. None of this
>>>>     concerns the Pd-list, but I wanted to clear this wasn't just
>>>>     some silly engagement without a history. On the other hand,
>>>>     you're also coming back here and being offensive and rude in
>>>>     general again. You're just revisiting how you mistreated people
>>>>     about 14 years ago out of nowhere. So I'd like to clarify why
>>>>     I took the stand and had the initiative to deal with you and
>>>>     not let you have it easy this time around, and push you back if
>>>>     you're just gonna make a scene again. I see others have an
>>>>     easier way of handling this and just ignore you. That's way
>>>>     harder for me, but it gets easier after I let things out.
>>>>
>>>>     I think the community is open to welcoming you back if you can
>>>>     hold it together, as this is what was happening, you were being
>>>>     treated nice, after all you did, but you blew it. To be honest,
>>>>     I poked you and pushed you back cause I don't count on your
>>>>     ability to behave. But if I'm wrong and you can be nice,
>>>>     welcome back :) anytime!
>>>>
>>>>     Really, I'd be glad to collaborate and let bygones be bygones,
>>>>     and help with what's troubling you. If you’re open to a more
>>>>     productive approach and can keep things civil, I’m happy to
>>>>     exchange. However, if that's not the case, I’ll disengage and I
>>>>     guess others won't bother much as well.
>>>>
>>>>     cheers
>>>
>>
>

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