Re: [ was: native json parsing] building pd with Rust code

it also happens to me when working on my patch with 9 templates and 
~63500 scalars. usually I have to force quit Pd instead of closing the 
patch.

can also happen when editing complex templates - specially if scalars 
are already created, with a much higher chance if the canvas is open. I 
think it hardly happens if there are no scalars.

But these are also just general descriptions, no concrete cases.


> I've occasionally had Pd crash after adding fields to data structures 
> in complicated patches... haven't found a simple crash example 
> though.  If anyone can find a repeatable crash scenario I'd love to 
> see it :)
>
> Miller
>
> On 2/14/26 6:23 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
>>
>> On 2/14/2026 3:53 PM, Patrice Colet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 14 févr. 2026 à 15:12, IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list 
>>>> <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> if you look at the implementation of Pd, then they (of course) are 
>>>> real pointers, but that is abstracted away (and not accessible) 
>>>> when working on a patch level.
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, but the abstract doesn't make it safe enough to prevent 
>>> PureData from crashing on erroneous datastructures.
>>
>> If you try to access an invalid pointer, you should only get an error 
>> message (e.g. "stale pointer"). They are actually safe, assuming the 
>> underlaying implementation is correct. If you experience crashes with 
>> data structures, please open a bug report.
>>
>> Christof
>>
>>>
>>> By the way, thank you for the accurate explanation.
>>>
>>> Pc
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