Re: [usf-devel] Re: Final call : USF muxing in MKV, and playbackon DShow and Gstreamer

Steve Lhomme <[email protected]> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 22:21:23 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.devel,gmane.comp.multimedia.usf.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Liisachan a =C3=A9crit :
> this either-or is actually not very logical,
> because (1) is a bug fix while (2) is a new feature;
> besides, it is not a given that USF doesn't work on Win98.

I said the same to Christian.

> OGM has its own practical forte altho it also has a lot of=20
> downsides compared to MKV. For one thing, from the users' side,=20
> OGM has better multi-audio support...(always easy to switch: Yes,=20
> I know the same thing is easy with MKV too if you are using=20
> MPC etc.)... not only the VSFilter problems.

That one will vanish when Haali's splitter will become the official one.

> (b) when you want to mux RV40
> - if you want to use OGM, you'll just find it's impossible
> - if you use MKV, it's possible but there will be a certain=20
> amount of unsureness about replayability (Like, is this OK on=20
> Mac?)

Indeed it's a big pb. We have told Real about this problem. Not that=20
they care about pirate stuff. But in the end ppl will hate them for=20
being so close-minded and use competitors instead. I personally won't=20
encode in RV until this issue is solved (if ever).

> * S_SSA to S_TEXT/SSA (And Gabest's filters still support S_SSA=20
> while Haali's version doesnt)
> * New Lacing System (We found that older filters couldnt play=20
> nerwer files)
> * new '64-bit type' (ditto)

Well, the problem is spreading softwares with bugs (not spec compliant)=20
and not being able to fix them (because of Gabest). VLC or other players =

never had any problems with 64-bits floats.

Hopefully once we have the menu done and clean Wavpack support, the=20
specs will be frozen. And we won't be the ones to blame if a software=20
doesn't respect them.

> ps. it is too bad that MKV and the doom9 forum don't mix
> mainly just because a certain mod prefers OGM. everything will=20
> change anyway sooner or later tho

Things are getting harder on this side. The OGM zealot is still mod and=20
alexnoe and Christian are banned. So we'll probably just move somewhere=20
else. Users with questions can reach us by so many other means than Doom9=
=2E..