RE: [NeoStats-Devel] SeenServ

"Justin Hammond" <justin-kLev/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.neostats.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> > > instead of reading through the file
> > > and removing expired records, I thought it would be simpler
> > > to just remove the file itself, and then save the data.
> >
> > Assuming you are using age to expire records, you could just add a
> timestamp
> > to each record then when you read a record you can either 
> use it, or throw
> > it away as too old. This way, the database will clean 
> itself as existing
> > records are accessed. You might also want to consider 
> having an option to
> > not expire records for smaller networks. Or at least 
> combine it with some
> > other limiting factor such as nick count so expiration will 
> only kick in
> > once the database reaches a predetermined size.
> 
> it's actually limiting only by record count at the moment, as 
> a new record
> gets appended to the list, it checks the list count, and if 
> greater that
> what is set it removes records from the begining untill at the limit
> allowed. if the limit is decreased via the set option it does 
> the same. i
> thought about limiting on age as well but wasn't sure if it 
> was worth the
> extra checks.
> 

Are you keeping the entire SeenServ database in memory? This doesn't sound
like the best way to do it, I would actually write it so each update (eg,
SIGNON, JOIN etc) gets written to database (you might want to write it to
queue up the writes say every 5 minutes) and only read out of the database
when you get a "!seen" request. That way, we don't waste memory holding
hundreds (thousands) of entries that might never get referenced.

Also, something to consider, one of the largest users (that I know of) of
NeoStats has roughly 7000 users online at any one time. You can imagine how
many connects they get a day... So maybe a record option is good, but also a
time option as M suggest should be considered. 



> it keeps track of Connects, Joins, Parts, Kills, Kicks, Quits & Nick
> Changes. using both Vhost and Host (Secret/Private Channels 
> are ignored
> completely).
> 
> I have it set so only NS_ULEVEL_LOCOPER and above can see or 
> search on the
> real host, and then only by messaging the Pseudo Client, even 
> if they are a
> NetAdmin they can only search on vhost if done in channel 
> (this was to stop
> others seeing real ip addresses if they are also in channel). 
> how would that
> go on IRCd's that don't allow VHosts, does the 
> client->user->vhost still get
> updated, but with the real host ?, that's one concern I have 
> about it, as
> it's hard coded to use the VHost data only for non Opers.
> 

The 2.5 series will put the users real host in the vhost field for IRCd's
that don't support vhosts, but honestly, I'm not 100% sure with 3.0 series.
It should though, to avoid problems like you mentioned. 



> I'd like someone with a rather active network to test it soon 
> if possible,
> so anything can be sorted out before releasing it with the 
> rest of the alpha
> versions.
> 

I'm setting up the SVN repo right now. Will email details shortly.

> DNB
> 
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