Re: m100

Hi Uwe,

"normalizing" can happen anywhere. We could make sure that whereever hid 
identifier are used, they should be used case insensitive.

Regards,
Mathias

On 16.02.2011 11:24, Uwe Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
> if the Help IDs are not case sensitive then it is of no use to normalize
> their cases. It would only risk that the Help IDs that are still part of
> translation relevant paragraphs get changed accidentally and thus result
> in translation relevant changes. We don't want that.
> I suppose this is what happened to the one ID that Martin reported.
>
> Uwe
>
> On 15.02.2011 08:46, Mathias Bauer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the "hid" identifiers are not case sensitive anyway.
>>
>> They are not used by the help only, but also by our testtool. The
>> testtool treats them case insensitive as it uses a BASIC language. So
>> even if the help was able to differentiate by case (I assume that it
>> does), we couldn't have two identifiers that only differ in upper/lower
>> case letters as then the testtool would complain.
>>
>> So you can ignore upper/lower case changes in these identifiers in
>> general. Perhaps we should normalize them to either full upper or full
>> lower case and then make sure that this doesn't change anymore?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mathias
>>
>> On 14.02.2011 11:37, Uwe Fischer wrote:
>>> On 02/12/11 19:05, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> the m100 brings several updates of strings in help, where I am
>>>> puzzled if
>>>> this is a true change:
>>>> hid=\"sw:CheckBox:TP_OPTPRINT_PAGE:CB_BLACK_FONT\"
>>>> gets changed into
>>>> hid=\"SW:CHECKBOX:TP_OPTPRINT_PAGE:CB_BLACK_FONT\"
>>>>
>>>> Is this not a consequence of the OOo help editor? Is this change really
>>>> necessary (i.e. if this is not necessary you are making 100 l10n teams
>>>> translate/edit/ review these strings for no reason at all).
>>>>
>>>> Just want to know before I start working (in vain?).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> m.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>>
>>> if this is a change in a paragraph, then it must have happened by chance
>>> (or by bad luck), but it was not intended to change. Sorry for that.
>>> The first version with sw:CheckBox in mixed case is the correct version.
>>> But if this is inside a "paragraph" then it doesn't really matter which
>>> text is inside the double quotes.
>>> The real Help IDs are stored inside "bookmarks" in the *.xhp help files,
>>> and those should not be visible to translators at all.
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>
>>
>
>


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