Re: Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval

Bjoern michaelsen wrote:
> > No. We're not NeoOffice, Lotus or Oracle Open Office: we are
> > OpenOffice.org ...
> No, you selfproclaimed are TDF/LO in the first place and OpenOffice.org
> only if it suits you.
>
Hi Björn,

oh, we would love to have our binaries labelled OpenOffice.org -
sadly trademark law prevents us from doing so. Oracle owns the
trademark, has setup extremely rigid constraints on its usage, and
has proven to be kinda litigious in recent times.

So we came up with an interim name, and at the same time asked 
Oracle to donate the trademark back to the community. The answer to
that is still pending, so what should we do?

> If you move your contributions somewhere else it supports your 
> position there, but not in this project anymore.
>
Your definition of "this project" is kinda arbitrary, and definitely
does not match mine. For me, this project is defined by its
community, the shared vision on what it is & what it should become -
and if you look around, you find very many people, including all
non-Oracle members of the CC, favouring an independent foundation.

> If you are still interested in contributing to OpenOffice.org, 
> I would be very interested in an reliable precise statement by 
> TDF on how it intends to contribute back to OpenOffice.org.
>
I think you need to clarify this: with "contributing to
OpenOffice.org", you mean "contributing to Oracle"? Otherwise I do
not understand your statement.

> And, by the way: I have not seen any hate around here, however 
> quite lot of personal disappointment.
> 
Yes, that's the sad side of the story. Not to make it any better,
but the disappointments have been mutual, sometimes over the course
of years. But let's rather focus on the future of OOo, not on the
past - since that's the only thing we can influence. And in my mind,
the future of OOo lies in an "independent, self-governing, 
meritocratic Foundation" - open to *all* participants of this
project.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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