Re: NeoOffice(r)/J 1.1 for Mac OS X Released

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Sophie,

> I have three questions :
> - if you come here to thank the OOo Mac porting team, why are they not 
> cited in you press release ? imho only one line about OOo site is very 
> few...

I personally saw 4 extensive references to OpenOffice.org in the mail 
to which you replied.

> - what about support in NL ? where do we send them ? do you have a 
> FAQ, documentations, support in native language your offer or if you 
> think the OOo community is able to do it (what we are currently doing 
> and this for various OOo flavours) it's not an issue for us, but 
> please, add also the OOo NLC to your press release,

There are links to the NeoOffice/J project pages in the PR, there are 
forums accessible from the links too. All project pages are localized 
in 10 languages, providing a wide range of information about the 
project.

If people read the PR properly and are smart enough they understand 
that NO/J is nothing more than OOo on OSX without X11 dependancies and 
thus go to the relevant OOo NL groups themselves if they feel like it.

This seemingly constant denial of what NeoOffice brings to the OSX OOo 
community is a problem since a lot of NeoOffice/J users also happen to 
be beta testing OOo 2.0 for OSX.

Besides, and more importantly, the official OOo for OSX page itself 
makes extensive reference to NeoOffice/J as is demonstrated on this 
page:
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html

So for "normal" users it is only common sense to actually subscribe to 
the relevant OOo forums as NeoOffice/J users.

> - and what about the OOo 2.0 release ? currently does a user using the 
> Mac 1.9.111 for example is able to read them on Neo/J 1.1 ? what for 
> companies using both Neo/J and OOo, will they be able to exchange 
> their documents in a near futur in both file format version ?

Is it already possible with OOo 1.1.4 on other platforms ?

The latest official OOo stable release for OSX seeming to be OOo 1.1.2 
(see the above link reference) I am not even sure the question itself 
is relevant: OOo 1.1.2 (on OSX) does _not_ support OD* files. Since 
NeoOffice/J is mostly OOo 1.1.4 with an Aqua looks your remark may not 
be extremely relevant.

Last but not least, it is commonly expected from people to read 
relevant documentation before asking questions/making remarks etc. I am 
surprised that you don't take the time to actually look at the 
NeoOffice/J pages. I am sure you'd find most of your questions answered 
and if not, supporting people who'd answer them.

I am actually almost positive that a person who has used both OOo/X11 
and NeoOffice/J and knows the difference would never make the comments 
you make and would regard both applications not as competitors on the 
OSX "market" but as complementary applications. And that will be the 
case until the OSX/X11 team gets rid of the X11 dependancy  or at least 
makes it an "option".

For people who are not yet aware of that fact on the OOo porting lists, 
a number of Unix based OSX applications have been or are in the process 
of being "ported" to the native OSX interface. Emacs is a very good 
example. OOo-NeoOffice/J is not an exception.

Sincerely,

Jean-Christophe
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