Re: [website-dev] OO.o and search engines

Lars Nooden <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.website
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 4/6/10 5:40 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
> Well, you know this is a community - right - you see something that
> needs doing, you jump in and do it.

Be careful not to punish introduction of ideas.  Anyway, it's not 
possible nor should it be for random people to re-write the CMS and Wiki 
software.

I appreciate the encouragement though.

> If you a good list of metadata for the site, for project pages lets say,
> or individual pages - put your thoughts up on the wiki

Propose a URL please so that it would go in the right place.

> and point to it with an Email here I would guess.

Here:

http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=dev&by=thread&from=538625

> If folks think it looks good they are going to find a way to let you
> work on it or make the changes, don't you think?

Open any non-wiki page on the *.openoffice.org hierarchy and you will 
see the same keywords.  It would require changes to Collabnet.  Adding 
one line to a header cost four years,
	http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=57549

Fixing two fields of metadata would be significantly more work.  Though 
on the absolute scale, having correct metadata in the web pages is easy.

The wiki is in better shape, there appears to be more unique metadata, 
but munged and still with redundancies. [1] Comma separated values is 
the standard practice if all descriptors go in the same element. 
Otherwise, one per element.  A change to the wiki might have to be done 
and then submitted upstream.  I am unfamiliar with media wiki.

/Lars


[1]	

Not so good:

	<meta name="keywords" content="Documentation/OOo3
	User Guides/Getting Started,Documentation/OOo3 User
	Guides/Chapters,Documentation/OOo3 User Guides/Getting
	Started/Background information,Documentation/OOo3 User
	Guides/Getting Started/Copyright,Documentation/OOo3
	User Guides/Getting Started/Creating Web
	Pages,Documentation/OOo3 User Guides/Getting
	Started/Customizing OpenOffice.org,Documentation/OOo3
	User Guides/Getting Started/Getting Started with
	Base,Documentation/OOo3 User Guides/Getting
	Started/Getting Started with Calc,Documentation/OOo3
	User Guides/Getting Started/Getting Started with
	Draw,Documentation/OOo3 User Guides/Getting
	Started/Getting Started with Impress,Documentation/OOo3
	User Guides/Getting Started/Getting Started with
	Macros" />


Better, option A:

	<meta name="keywords" content="User Guides, Getting
	Started, Documentation, Impress, Macros" />

Better, option B:

	<meta name="keywords" content="User Guides />
	<meta name="keywords" content="Getting Started />
	<meta name="keywords" content="Documentation />
	<meta name="keywords" content="Impress />
	<meta name="keywords" content="Macros" />

Very fancy (and good conversation starter at ALA):

	<meta name="DC.Subject" content="User Guides />
	<meta name="DC.Subject" content="Getting Started />
	<meta name="DC.Subject" content="Documentation />
	<meta name="DC.Subject" content="Impress />
	<meta name="DC.Subject" content="Macros" />

For a dry but informative article about what this is about, pre-HTML4:
	http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue5/metadata-masses/
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