Fwd: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9

Hola *,

para quienes están todavía creen ver algún conflicto de intereses por estos 
lares (y para los que no), les puede resultar interesante este hilo:
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=dev&by=thread&from=2442350
y la respuesta de Peter Junge que sigue a continuación
Original en 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=31183

Saludos

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Subject: Re: [marketing] Marketing budget - SCALEx9
Date: Wednesday 15 December 2010, 05:37:32
From: Peter Junge <[email protected]>
To: Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected], [email protected]

Hi Alexandro,

Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Hi I want to ask the budget commitee for 500 dls for expenses to
> SCALEx9. I want to put the petition even if SCALE still have not
> finished the CFP. I submitted a couple of talks and I am still waiting
> for the final approval. However budget processes have been a bit slow
> lately so I want to put an early petition here.

maybe the processes are slow because you are sending your request 
recurrently to the wrong address. AFAIR, Florian had mentioned this many 
times. A budget request has to raised with the budget custodian, which 
is currently me. Mailing lists are welcome to be CCed, but it's not 
mandatory.

> 
> Last year I participated with a lightning talk on OOo4Kids which you
> can watch here: http://jza.blip.tv/file/3261755/
> 
> After the talk I got to talk with the core organizers which were
> interested into expanding the participation for communities such as
> OOo in the US. And geared me to participate next year with a wider
> talk about OOo/ODF etc. This year I am giving a talk on ODF with an
> OpenGovernment angle, targeting the success stories gather from South
> America and Europe.

If we fund you to attend the SCALEx9, we have to make sure that you are 
still with OOo. I had a look at the ES project at the OOo website and I 
have to say, that there are a couple of issues puzzling me, hence I want 
to raise some concerns:

Firstly, the design of http://es.openoffice.org/ is not as it should be 
with OOo. Usually one finds the main project links such as member list, 
mailing lists etc., but they are hidden. They only becoming visible 
after moving on to "Conoce OOo" or "Servicios". Being there, I have been 
having a look at "Comunidad::Listas de Correos" and got really 
irritated. (http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html) The OOo 
mailing lists have apparently been dropped in preference of other 
mailing lists hosted as http://oooes.org/. I'm not in favor for such a 
solution, but it might still be a agreement of the community. However, 
the worst problem for me is, that the OOo mailing list archives are not 
reachable from this point. IMHO, that's totally inappropriate. Even more 
confusing is, that the dev@es mailing list still seems to have 
significant traffic, see:
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=dev
Can you please comment my above observations.

Secondly, I have been visiting http://oooes.org/ then. It promotes both 
OOo and LibreOffice, which many here see as a competing product and 
community. So, if you are going to attend the SCALEx9 on behalf and the 
expenses of OOo, will yo exclusively promote OOo or will you promote the 
whole ecosystem? The flow chart 
(http://oooes.org/images/interacciones-oooes.png) on the main page looks 
a bit like OOoES is closer tight to the TDF and LibO, rather than OOo. 
(BTW, the way OOoES is using the new OOo logo is IMHO against the 
guidelines.)

> 
> $500 would allow me to partially pay for my travel expenses. I would
> still need to chip from my own money to pay for hotel.

Please comment on the above concerns before we proceed.

Best regards,
Peter


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