Re: [OOo-Hebrew] [YBA] RFI for Hebrew OOo SOW 2008
"Natan Nestel" <[email protected]> Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:06:46 +0200
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--===============046934072914003311== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8367_2022793.1199632006433" ------=_Part_8367_2022793.1199632006433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a MAC and I don't know how to use the Hebrew. What is the best way to learn? Thanks, Natan On Jan 6, 2008 4:50 PM, Nadav Har'El <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote about "[OOo-Hebrew] [YBA] > RFI for Hebrew OOo SOW 2008": > > Your suggestions should be as specific as possible and realistic in an > > engineering sense. For example: > > In addition to being specific and realistic, doesn't it need to somehow be > an issue specific to Israel? > > > Please post your suggestions to this list for discussion. If the > > discussions get out of hand we will take them off-list. > > My first wish, which is very specific and at least somewhat realistic is: > > get all the existing Hebrew bugfixes into the official OpenOffice. > > I guess this mostly requires talking and nagging (with the OpenOffice > developer) and relatively little new programming. > > Another thing I wish for isn't very specific, but maybe it will spark > a discussion which will be more specific. What I would love to see done > is some sort of setups or frameworks which will facilitate more Israelis, > not just your team, to participate in OpenOffice development. For example, > translation can be done (even if not as well as you did) by a team of > volunteers, and bug fixing and adding features can also be done by > volunteers > from the general public. But I think that what's stopping this is the > shear > complexity of the OpenOffice project. > > For example, I saw that you recently commented on Rene's bug report that > the > OpenOffice's builtin Hspell (not the hunspell dictionary of Hspell) needs > to be > updated. Dan and I have clearly shown our interest in making Hebrew spell- > checking a reality for OpenOffice, and we are the ones who created the > hunspell > format Hebrew dictionary for OpenOffice, but we simply have no idea how to > write a spell-checker for OpenOffice, which is why Alan had to do it. If > there was a way in which this complexity could be simplified, and we had a > way to focus on the Hspell code and not on compiling millions of lines of > code for OpenOffice, maybe we could have done (and can do in the future) > this > work and save you the time. > > > Tk Open Systems acts as a contractor to the MoF for the Hebrew OOo > > project. Both Boaz Dolev (MoF) and I have ideas about where to take the > > project in the coming year, but since you, the public, are providing the > > funding, you should have the final say. This is your opportunity. > > I think that OpenOffice in Hebrew has gone a long way in the last several > years. From a buggy and barely workable solution for Hebrew documents, it > has become a very useful word processor. I believe that for the Hebrew > support > not to "decay", at least some minimal level of work needs to be maintained > at fixing small bugs and preventing "decay". I think that such minimal > level > of work also needs to be funded. > > -- > Nadav Har'El | Sunday, Jan 6 2008, 28 Tevet > 5768 > [email protected] > |----------------------------------------- > Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |The meek shall inherit the Earth, for > http://nadav.harel.org.il |they are too timid to refuse it. > -- > Hebrew OpenOffice Mailing List [email protected] > To unsubscribe see: http://openoffice.org.il/mailman/listinfo/hebrew > ------=_Part_8367_2022793.1199632006433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div>I have a MAC and I don't know how to use the Hebrew.</div> <div>What is the best way to learn?</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks,</div> <div> </div> <div>Natan<br><br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 6, 2008 4:50 PM, Nadav Har'El <<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Sun, Jan 06, 2008, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote about "[OOo-Hebrew] [YBA] RFI for Hebrew OOo SOW 2008": <br> <div class="Ih2E3d">> Your suggestions should be as specific as possible and realistic in an<br>> engineering sense. For example:<br><br></div>In addition to being specific and realistic, doesn't it need to somehow be <br>an issue specific to Israel?<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br>> Please post your suggestions to this list for discussion. If the<br>> discussions get out of hand we will take them off-list.<br><br></div>My first wish, which is very specific and at least somewhat realistic is: <br><br> get all the existing Hebrew bugfixes into the official OpenOffice.<br><br>I guess this mostly requires talking and nagging (with the OpenOffice<br>developer) and relatively little new programming.<br><br>Another thing I wish for isn't very specific, but maybe it will spark <br>a discussion which will be more specific. What I would love to see done<br>is some sort of setups or frameworks which will facilitate more Israelis,<br>not just your team, to participate in OpenOffice development. For example, <br>translation can be done (even if not as well as you did) by a team of<br>volunteers, and bug fixing and adding features can also be done by volunteers<br>from the general public. But I think that what's stopping this is the shear <br>complexity of the OpenOffice project.<br><br>For example, I saw that you recently commented on Rene's bug report that the<br>OpenOffice's builtin Hspell (not the hunspell dictionary of Hspell) needs to be<br>updated. Dan and I have clearly shown our interest in making Hebrew spell- <br>checking a reality for OpenOffice, and we are the ones who created the hunspell<br>format Hebrew dictionary for OpenOffice, but we simply have no idea how to<br>write a spell-checker for OpenOffice, which is why Alan had to do it. If <br>there was a way in which this complexity could be simplified, and we had a<br>way to focus on the Hspell code and not on compiling millions of lines of<br>code for OpenOffice, maybe we could have done (and can do in the future) this <br>work and save you the time.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br>> Tk Open Systems acts as a contractor to the MoF for the Hebrew OOo<br>> project. Both Boaz Dolev (MoF) and I have ideas about where to take the<br>> project in the coming year, but since you, the public, are providing the <br>> funding, you should have the final say. This is your opportunity.<br><br></div>I think that OpenOffice in Hebrew has gone a long way in the last several<br>years. From a buggy and barely workable solution for Hebrew documents, it <br>has become a very useful word processor. I believe that for the Hebrew support<br>not to "decay", at least some minimal level of work needs to be maintained<br>at fixing small bugs and preventing "decay". I think that such minimal level <br>of work also needs to be funded.<br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br>Nadav Har'El | Sunday, Jan 6 2008, 28 Tevet 5768<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] </a> |-----------------------------------------<br>Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |The meek shall inherit the Earth, for<br><a href="http://nadav.harel.org.il/" target="_blank">http://nadav.harel.org.il</a> |they are too timid to refuse it.<br></font> <div> <div></div> <div class="Wj3C7c">--<br>Hebrew OpenOffice Mailing List <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>To unsubscribe see: <a href="http://openoffice.org.il/mailman/listinfo/hebrew" target="_blank"> http://openoffice.org.il/mailman/listinfo/hebrew</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_8367_2022793.1199632006433-- --===============046934072914003311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- Hebrew OpenOffice Mailing List [email protected] To unsubscribe see: http://openoffice.org.il/mailman/listinfo/hebrew --===============046934072914003311==--