Re: [native-lang] IRC Talk starts now!!

On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 17:15 +0200, Andre Schnabel wrote:
> Hi Charles, Sophie, *
> 
> ....
> 
> >Last point, Ian: when all is said and done, there will be people who
> >contribute to OpenOffice.org and give the best to it, and people who are
> >making noise and spread FUD. 
> >
> 
> The problem is to decide, who belongs to what group. this decision ist 
> not very easy, as most of us know only from email, what others are 
> doing. And even if we know more than just Mails, whe don't know the 
> other's live.

Well said Andre! E-mail is not a good medium to find out about people.
Unless you have face to face meetings its very difficult to know what
motivates anyone. I'm lucky in that I have been able to meet many
community members this year in New Zealand, Australia, USA, and in
Eastern Europe. I can say that all the people I have met are
passionately committed to OOo even if they have different preferred ways
of going about things. So let's have a bit more trust and tolerance of
differences. 

> So ... please calm down a little.

+1

> I know, it is not easy to make you (Charles and Sophie) that angry, so 
> there must be reasons ... but there are also reasons, why people feel 
> more comfortable with working at the OOoAuthors-site the working within 
> the documentation project.
> 
> I can tell something, why I have left the documentation project .. and 
> would rather work on OOoAuthors, if I'd start with OOo documentation 
> again. But this would be no good idea, if OOoAuthors is really a 
> community fork.

> To me, this is the main problem .. that some people consider OOoAuthors 
> a fork.

Its only a fork if you want it to be one.

>  But I don't know the reasons for that opinion (well .. I know 
> know at least one reason for me, to see it as such).
> 
> So .. maybe we should focus on resolving thoses issuen?
> 
> And .. no .. don't tell this all could have been done within the 
> (global) documentation project. I have several examples where people 
> asked at dev@documentation how to help and never got an answer. (So .. 
> if we are speaking of a fork, search for the reasons within the project, 
> why this fork was so easy to establish).

Also the schools project wants to promote kids learning how to
participate in the project. OOoAuthors is a much better fit for this
particular need. 

-- 
Ian Lynch <[email protected]>
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