Re: [native-lang] All community discussions - wich list to use?

Hello Charles,

Charles Schulz schrieb:
> Hello Bernhard,
> 
>> I am not sure if this topic is more a developer topic (to be discussed
>> on dev@OOo) instead of an all community topic, that could be discussed
>> on [email protected] with a broader audience.
>>
>> Of course there are more developer subscribed to dev@OOo, but my
>> feelings are that discuss@OOo should be used for *any* discussion or
>> decision with effect on major parts of the community.
>>
>> I strongly recommend to subscribe this list to anybody interested in
>> overall community topics - and to post such messages there.
> The discuss list is of course an interesting place. But there may be too
> much noise. 

I know - but how could this be changed?

We need a central list for general discussions between developers and 
non-coders. IMHO neither releases@OOo nor dev@OOo suite for this purpose 
as the work there has a different orientation.

I don't think that it would be a good idea to "mess" (in the eyes of 
some developers) dev@OOo with larger threads like this one on non-coding 
topics. In the Germanophone community we had such discussions leading to 
conclusions on fundamental questions, but there was quite a number of 
people displeased about the "noise" - even if [email protected] is not a real 
developer list.

> dev@ooo has the quite rare advantage of being known by
> everybody and not being crowded.

I doubt if it stays uncrowded, if more of such discussions take part there.

> I know that the list does not make up
> for the quality of the discussions, but dev@ has a surprizingly high
> amount of quality discussions (see the discussions on the specs). I
> think we need a broad input of the community but not necessarily the
> input of everybody who may not be familiar with OOo...

Right - that's one of the negative aspects of discuss@OOo.

What do you think about a new list restricted to people being project 
member of any of the OOo projects? Stating clearly that no mails will be 
moderated on the list, we could avoid such noise perhaps ...

I'd propose a name like [email protected] or something like 
that - not quite sure in the moment (it's just a first idea - not 
thought about it thoroughly).
> 
> For discussions on communication and walled gardens, I suggest we keep
> them here, on this list?
> 
For walled gardens between N-L project teams this is the right list, but 
  it doesn't help at all if we find a way to optimize the way of 
communication with developers if they don't take part in this discussion.

What do you think?

Best regards

Bernhard